• andros_rex@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    I have fairly severe social anxiety; when I went to France, the negative response to the French I was able to stutter out ensured I’d never try to speak French again. (I read it fairly well, because Candide was good enough to read ten times)

    In high school, I had an assignment to go to a local Chinese restaurant and order in Chinese. The response to my “我要broccoli 牛肉” was so enthusiastic that I still do a set of Chinese flash cards everyday.

    There has to be a motivating force for you to learn something. Whether that is social approval/encouragement, needing to be able to ask for certain things… Some people can be motivated by an intrinsic love of learning things, but for most I think this is confined to specific topics.

    For language, I think you need a show that you want to watch, a space you can navigate by only using that language, something that gives you meaningful feedback and places to go that a grade simply doesn’t.

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      2 months ago

      Same story here with Spanish. I was in South America for all of two weeks. But the smiles and help when I tried to use Spanish for anything more than beer and bathrooms keeps me going back to Duolingo.

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        2 months ago

        I speak Spanish, I have a fairly basic level of fluency but don’t live there. People understand me and I can hold conversations but they call me gringo and they are not “nice” or welcoming about it.

        I have very little attachments to where I’m from so that was the last straw for me. I don’t identify culturally with where I’m from anymore.

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            2 months ago

            It’s not something to feel bad about it was just a defining moment at made me understand that despite being born there and living through my childhood it’s not my home and these ppl aren’t my people

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      2 months ago

      I had a similar positive experience in Spain and Morocco. Tangier is very close to Spain so most of the locals know Spanish.

      I would always start conversations in Spanish. Most of the time the person I was talking to would appreciate my attempt and switch to English. In Tangier I talked to a street peddler for over 15 minutes while friends were in a store. I attempted to speak in Spanish but he preferred English. He just wanted to chat.

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      2 months ago

      ensured I’d never try to speak French again

      Probably for the best (context: am Canadian and was forced to learn French, but I didn’t).

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        2 months ago

        Teenager I was traveling with couldn’t figure out how to use the turnstiles at the metro. Random French guy, in English: “you disgust me.”

        Also got scammed by an Uber. The Louvre was worth it though, we hated Paris so much we spent the entire day inside the museum.