• SilentStorms@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    4 months ago

    It’s insane you’re getting this downvoted. Domestic violence from men against women is a massive global issue, and putting your hands over your ears and saying “ well I’m not the problem” is not doing anything. This problem will never get solved until men take ownership over it and stop it.

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      4 months ago

      What does this even mean? What fraction of men do you presume are abusers for one, and for two, are you assuming every man knows every other man and we just bulk regulate?

      This is some “all black people know each other” kind of stupid.

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      This problem will never get solved until men take ownership over it

      Why exactly, should having a chromosome in common with a violent criminal make preventing their crime more that person’s responsibility than anyone else’s?

      The crimes of men are not ‘owned’ by men. The crimes of women are not ‘owned’ by women. Crime is a societal ill that society collectively is responsible for preventing/catching/etc., to the best of its ability.

      Don’t imagine you’d be good with a girl being physically abused by her mother reporting it to a male authority figure and being told ‘sorry, women gotta take ownership over this problem and solve it, it’s not men’s problem’, would you?

      Think for a moment and realize how bigoted this line of thinking actually is.

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      4 months ago

      Domestic violence is a global issue. But you’re not helping anyone by further pushing a stereotype and ignoring the problem. Do you think only cis men are capable of domestic violence? Because such a though would be bigoted in a few different ways to be honest.

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        4 months ago

        Are we talking about what’s possible or what is likely?

        Here I’ll answer both:

        1. Yes anyone is capable of violence
        2. 95% of all murder is by men, so is much more likely.

        Bonus: men are far more likely to be a victim of violence than a woman. Men also should be cautious around strange new men!

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          4 months ago

          That stat is entirely reductive and meaningless. And two of your answers are sexist. Not that I think you give a shit.

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            That stat is entirely reductive and meaningless.

            How? How is a statistic like this meaningless?

            If the statistic were reversed, you’re going to tell me that you wouldn’t care? If 95% of murders were committed by women? You don’t need to answer, I already know.

            The reality, though, is if that were ever the case, men would immediately put a stop to it, and it would be no time before women were relegated to baby-making machines with no agency like freaks like Vance want.

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              If the statistic were reversed, you’re going to tell me that you wouldn’t care?

              I’d be calling bullshit still. Sensationalized “stats” for the sake of views on “news”/blogs/podcasts is nothing new and I will not subscribe to it. I’m not sure which fallacies are in play here but I suspect it’s several.

              If 95% of murders were committed by women? You don’t need to answer, I already know.

              You really don’t.

              This is a thread about Rebecca Cheptegei and you bring Vance into this… something 100% unrelated and is frankly, disrespected to the deceased. The problem is, you spend way to much time on the internet/news cycle and now you have a screwed up view of reality. You need to largely disconnect from the internet for a significant period of time

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        Don’t mention that among the three primary ‘sex pairings’ of romantic relationships (m/f, m/m, f/f), the one with the highest incidence of domestic violence is f/f, or their head might just explode, lol…