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        2 months ago

        As opposed to the very authentic progressivism of rounding up and shooting political opponents?

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            2 months ago

            If you can’t reach your ideal democracy without executing dissidents, that’s not democracy.

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              ‘Dissidents’ like they’re some powerless minority being oppressed and that their dissent isn’t over the value of human life. This is why we say that liberals are the same as fascists. “Sorry freemen, if we crack down on the whites killing you and passing black codes, it’s just not a democracy!”

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                Ah yes, peak anti-fascism: declaring your political opponents to be monolithically evil to justify their execution. Half of all American voters are subhuman scum that must be cleansed to bring about democracy.

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                  2 months ago

                  In a conversation talking about nazis and klansmen:

                  declaring your political opponents to be monolithically evil to justify their execution

                  but don’t you see the good side of the nazis??

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                You can, if you stop abstaining or voting third party out of protest. You can’t blame the electoral system for being ineffective if you don’t use it right.

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                  2 months ago

                  How? Both candidates support genocide, is there an option on the ballot to dismantle the genocidal US Empire?

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                    2 months ago

                    The problem is systemic, it can’t be solved by one office in one election.

                    Y’know the old saying about the best and second best times to plant a tree? Sweeping political change takes time. You need progressive candidates to prove themselves on local and state levels.

                    It’ll take 6 years to replace every governor and congressperson, and based on the landscape I see, at least 5-10 years to promote enough progressives to a position suitable to candidacy. 15-20 years of voting for capable progressives in every race from school board to governor will provide us with a rich crop of experienced candidates.

                    That does mean voting lesser evil until you can get proven progressives on the ticket. That’s just reality. If you don’t vote for a candidate that wins, you didn’t get even the most meager semblance of representation. Not getting what you want because the voters that disagree with you outnumber the ones that agree is the fundamental principle of democracy. Show up. Vote, for someone who might win.

                    Republicans planted their tree 50 years ago. Progressives’ best move in the next few elections is show up in droves to big tent blue wave, and then splinter when the Republican party is defunct.