Why YSK: because what seems like equal situation from surface isn’t always equal opportunity for all. And even when equal measure of help is provided, it might not be equally useful.

  • ryathal
    1827·
    1 year ago

    In practice that’s equity programs work by hurtingsomeone. Some California schools cut advanced math classes because they weren’t diverse enough, or it was contributing to an educational gap, or some bullshit. Equity requires adding burden to someone, it may be in an attempt at fairness, but that doesn’t make it right.

      • duffman@lemmy.world
        614·
        1 year ago

        Equality people: “Let’s fund these people who are objectively poor, they are disadvantaged and need it.”.

        Equity people: “let’s fund people part of this group I can clearly identify by looking at them. They are likely to be disadvantaged.”

        • Kage520@lemmy.world
          43·
          1 year ago

          Not sure why everyone is downvoting any opinion that isn’t “give minorities all the available resources!”.

          It should not be: you need x% of your classroom seats to go to minorities. That’s silly because talented and driven people will be sent away to make space. It should be more like: “you must provide an avenue to help those who can prove disadvantaged status to take extra classes and then reapply to your program.” These classes could be online or whatever to make it as easy as possible for someone with less means but still driven to succeed have a way to better themselves.

        • imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee
          54·
          1 year ago

          “let’s fund people part of this group I can clearly identify by looking at them. They are likely to be disadvantaged.”

          Uh… they don’t identify by looking at them you braindead fool. They do means testing. As in - actually seeing if they need it.

          • duffman@lemmy.world
            63·
            1 year ago

            Firstly, be respectful.

            There is a huge range of equity implementations in the US. My company, for example, has not done any “means testing” when recruiting for racial equity. Nor when it donates to blanket racial programs. There was no means testing when internships were offered to high school students of particular demographics.

    • ssboomman@lemm.ee
      102·
      1 year ago

      Lmaooo the only people who use that California talking point are people who have never been inside of a school in California. They aren’t cutting math classes they are offering alternatives to high level math courses like calculus, stats, and data science. Explain to me how that’s burdening anyone??