• Fedizen@lemmy.world
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    7 hours ago

    Who is this article for?

    It doesn’t address the real problem here: That first past the post voting is a broken system and that main party candidates should make more effort to fix this glaring hole in the voting system.

    Because fptp is garbage, third parties are little more than a method to undermine a candidates opposition (in the US in 2024 the green party is ironically propped up in part by the republican party)

    By leaving out fptp it just sounds like anti democracy drivel.

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      2 hours ago

      Most all Harris voters agree things need to be changed.

      We also agree that NOW is not the time for that. Just, let’s make sure the orange man stays out of power first before arguing what to change.

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      first past the post voting is a broken system and that main party candidates should make more effort to fix this glaring hole in the voting system.

      The Democratic Party would rather lose to the Republican Party than change the rules to allow for a multi-party system.

      That aside, the major parties don’t want to reform the system they have because it’s worked very well for them. Our parties are incredibly old by world standards. The Democrats have been around since the 18th century, and the Republicans have been around since the 1850s.

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        The Democratic Party would rather lose to the Republican Party than change the rules to allow for a multi-party system.

        That’s a weird false dichotomy. Why are you painting those as the two options?

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        The problem is if you believe this entirely then there’s no mechanism to affect parties. Which is easy to disprove.

        The overarching reality is that the parties are affected by things: culturally there’s been a long period (150 years) of slowly unrestricting people with lots of resistance. Then there’s also a economic right wing drift for decades, largely along capital accumulation lines.

        I buy the idea that the parties are hard to affect but the idea they are impossible to affect seems ahistorical.

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            ?There’s several ways to affect politics

            1. Corruption - largely the higher corruption is the more advocates to lower taxes for their donors. This is driven by capital accumulation.

            2. Bottom up struggles - largely if a number of states do a thing the federal politicians will pick it up. Voting rights, marijuana legalization etc fall into this. Realistically this is probably the way to pick up votes.

            3. Media driven - Trump is primarily influenced this way with scares, fear, bullshit. The last 40 years are driven heavily by media scares funded by right wing billionaires. Factual information sometimes breaks through here: I would argue the obamacare ban on pre-existing conditions was the outcome of a media cycle. Usually these are bad rather than good.

            4. Personal affectations of politicians. Cheney’s daughter caused him to be sensible on gay rights, McCain’s stance on torture was a result of his time as a POW. George Bush’s daddy issues about Iraq lead to millions of people dying. If enough people shoot at trump I do see him passing gun legislation (not encouraging it, just speculation)

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              Indeed politics is a tea kettle in the Lagrange zone between the earth and the moon.

              But I was suggesting methods for affecting political parties.