• PedroMaldonado@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Yes! So…its the perfect time to put the crazy, putin fellating, liar in office as opposed to the smart, clearthinking, tough, experienced lady, right?

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      Neither are good options, as the only correct move for the US is to withdraw from the region and accept whatever refugees come out of it as recompense for enabling this conflict.

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      The smart, clearthinking, tough, experienced lady whose administration has helped escalate things this far through constantly helping the aggressor igniting the entire region with weapons and military support, committing countless of warcrimes, being plausibly accused of genocide, condemned for its illegal annexation and occupation of stolen land.

      Truly the administration that has been critical in supporting the escalations leading to possibly the start of WW3 is the perfect administration to continue. After all, who doesn’t want more dead Arabs?

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        what exactly do you think Trump would have been doing if he were in office? Probably would have been extorting Palestine as he did with Ukraine.

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          No probably about it, he’s come right out and said so.

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          So how would you describe what has happened to Palestinians over the past 70 years and in particular since October 8 ?

          Neither the Reps nor the Dems currently in power are worthy representatives. Except the few powerless people in these parties that tried to prevent it, they all pushed for the same thing and they all support the fundamentally same strategy. Unconditional support for imperialism and systematic destabilization and destruction of the world outside their direct allies. The Bushs, Clintons, Obama, Trump, Biden, Harris and their lackeys all brought violent murder and ever more sophisticated murder machines.

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              How does that abolish the other Presidents and their administrations from how they are supporting genocide, ethnic cleansing, settler colonialism, illegal occupation and annexation of land?

              Ever since the Oslo accords ended with a Likud fanatic with possible Mossad ties murdering Yitzhak Rabin, the US has put up a charade of supporting peace, while factually aiding Israel in removing any possibility for a peace through its violent expansion. Now they have moved up the notch to genocide and trying to escalate the region into a war, possibly becoming a global war. And Biden/Harris are supporting them in that just as Trump claims he would support them.

              Trump is just saying the quiet part out loud. In terms of policy the only thing he could do more than the current administration is directly have US troops help in the slaughter of Palestinians.

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                How does that abolish the other Presidents and their administrations from how they are supporting genocide, ethnic cleansing, settler colonialism, illegal occupation and annexation of land?

                well firstly one of my points above was that trump was the only president in history who made the US’s official position as supporting Israel’s settling Palestine.

                as for the other stuff you mentioned, i never said any president should be absolved of anything. my point this whole time has been that no matter how bad you think Kamala will be in regards to palestine, trump will be even worse. it’s not a binary “good” or “bad” situation.

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                  I agree that it is not a binary situation. Which is why it is crucial for people to break free of understanding their political choices as voting one of two candidates handed to them once every four years.

                  And that is why the whole “if you are not for Harris, you are a secret Trump supporter hurr durr” needs to end. US people are gaslighting themselves to become supporters of the most heinous crimes, when these are supported by both parties.

                  Now Israel will drag the US into another endless war in the Middle East.

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                    Voting at the federal level is absolutely a binary situation in the US. That’s not gaslighting, it’s literally the structure of our voting system.

                    “if you are not for Harris, you are a secret Trump supporter hurr durr”

                    I didn’t say that and I would never argue that position, so please stop putting words in my mouth.