• lugal@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Yes, we often call them “long” and “short” E but the short E is actually halfway to A. It’s a different vowel even though it’s written the same. The last E is the vowel we often have in unstressed syllables like gekommen, same in English upon, about. We write it as E but it’s basically the most relaxed vowel possible.

    Look at this vowel chart to see and hear the differences.

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      2 months ago

      Wouldn’t e halfway to a be ä

      The short e in Mercedes is much closer to e than to ä

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        2 months ago

        Yesn’t.

        E and Ä are basically the same sounds but you use the letter Ä to indicate that the root word has an A. Fähre is derived from fahren so it has Ä but it’s the same sound as the first E in Mercedes.

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          2 months ago

          At least in Austria the first e in Mercedes is much closer to e than to ä.

          On the other hand many actual ä are also much closer to e than to ä in Austria so ig it might be different in Germany.