My thoughts is that it’s a simple situation really. If they’re harassing or assaulting people, the women will call the cops or something, simple situation and get the guy arrested. If he’s not doing anything, it’s nothing harmful. Apparently that’s not a solid enough answer. What should I have said?

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    Is there a magical barrier that keeps men who don’t say they’re trans from entering women’s bathrooms?

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      Yes, peoples expectations, someone who’s obviously trans can use any bathroom, because it’s expected. If a guy walks into a girls bathroom the unknown becomes a real threat. Unless there’s a Karen then all bets are off. Tbh smaller establishments don’t need gendered bathrooms if it’s just a single toilet.

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      It’s quite interesting to see them make this argument while also claiming that gun control laws can’t possibly work because criminals won’t abide by them.

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        I guess we need to allow everyone to use any washroom because we need a good man in the women’s washroom to be around to save the women from a bad man in the women’s washroom

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            Not if it means white men can go wherever they want!

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      A fictitious rapist can only enter women’s toilets for raping purposes if they loudly declare that they are trans.

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      Yeah, this is probably the right way to go. There’s actually no bathroom police, for most people. It’s an issue in the first place because when someone is trans people will deputise themselves just to harass them.

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      The social contract, and the knowledge that it isn’t acceptable and any women inside would likely scream and the man would be perceived as an attempted rapist and would face consequences.

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        In my experience what happens is you look at each other confusedly for a moment, wondering who is in the wrong restroom. Then you realise there are no urinals so it’s probably the women’s restroom. Then the man leaves a bit embarrassed. Source: Happened to me at least twice (once the signs were really unclear).

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        So, no. I don’t think a rapist cares much if they’re perceived as a rapist. And a lot of (maybe most?) rapists know that they probably won’t be convicted even if caught.