All this shit needs to be legislated to be opt-in.
And then they’ll just do like everyone else does, nag screens every five minutes with no “No, and don’t ask me again” option, you can only say “Not now” and then it’ll ask again in five minutes. Or you can have the car, but you can only use the speedometer if you agree to them monitoring your speed and you can only have headlights and windshield wipers if you agree to them recording everything you do, etc.
Sounds like a vehicle I wouldn’t buy. That’s the ultimate control - the consumer demands privacy and buys the vehicle that provides it
good luck not owning a vehicle after literally all of them become enshittified garbage.
Yeah… Doesn’t really work like that in reality. Look at TVs.
Mine isn’t hooked to the Internet. Works for me.
This is the way. I just moved and got a new TV. It has never been connected to the internet and never will. My Shield TV pro handles that
No car for you then, since all of them do it. Can’t go to work? Too bad.
Just remember, voting with your wallet works. /s
Wirecutters do wonders for privacy.
As long as it’s not literally digitally run on one wire, and if you cut it, you have no infotainment system. Or, in some cases, no way to start your car.
Or it’s not a rental. Or your friend’s car. Or a taxi.
This needs to be regulated away.
I snipped the antenna lead from the cellular modem on my Hyundai. No more built-in road assistance, remote start, or emergency unlocking, but I then never signed up to pay for those features. The car can’t phone home anymore. I connect my phone to the infotainment system to allow navigation, and the phone has an Internet DNS filter that prevents connections to Hyundai’s servers.
That will have to suffice until we get full digital privacy rights.
Exactly. We’re just describing various failures to effectively govern.
That needs to be shut down, too.
Like those stupid cookie notices. If sites would just stop doing tracking, the notices aren’t even needed.
Yep, as a web developer sometimes I get panicky about new legislation until I remember that I don’t even serve CSS or JavaScript from third-party domains. I don’t track users by IP address or anything. Fuck that
And I’m sure your websites are (even more) awesome without that garbage.
I really try, but I’m starting to feel like a zombie all the time!
One thing I try to do is not go so hard on JavaScript. I don’t like when websites do that and have problems due to that, especially when it comes to forms (though I do have an awesome example with being able to paste a long string of text into a text field and having JavaScript split it into the following fields, but only if it’s in the correct format).
JavaScript is fine as long as it degrades gracefully when disabled by the user.
That feature sounds very useful.
Yeah, it’s a long story but while working somewhere they used a terrible SaaS for their day-to-day operations and I eventually built my own that they still use (I don’t work there anymore).
The long string would be a bunch of specifications sent via email by clients (it’s an email-heavy industry) and I got tired of copying and pasting each part line by line (it was also hard because they weren’t sent as separate lines, but used a character as a separator) so I built it for myself.
I guess that’s the magic of eating your dog food.
Kia and Hyundai, which have the same parent company, collect voice recognition data from inside their cars and sell this to the artificial intelligence (AI) software training company Credence, the Choice investigation found.
“We think that the average Hyundai driver, the average Kia driver, when they purchase their car, have no idea that this is happening,” Mr Blakkarly said.
“They haven’t really properly consented to their voice being used to train AI models.”
Interesting. If this is being done without disclosure and without even the opportunity for the driver to give consent (or not), it seems like it’s inviting a lawsuit, and it might violate recording consent laws in some states.
I know a certain bank that is doing the same thing. If you call customer service they are using Chatgpt to listen to the entire call and recently started capturing voice data to allow AI verify they are talking to the customer. Creepy as fuck and no customer aren’t told this is happening.
I’ve seen this advertised as a fraud detection and prevention service, even before ChatGPT. I’m assuming there’s a standard disclosure that the call may be recorded for training purposes, it’s only recently that “training” has included “training AI”.
Training then: Making all the new hires sit down and listen to a recording of you get increasingly frustrated with their dumbass coworker.
Training now: Burning through a neighborhood’s worth of power for data processing to ensure that the phone tree understands you with absolute certainty when you say “speak to a representative”, yet continues to ignore you anyway.
“You have selected an invalid option. Goodbye.” Click
Yeah but still should be illegal. I mean this AI is listening and gathering information about the customer while discussing private banking matters.
100%
And how long (as if it isn’t already) before the same systems transition to healthcare? AI wants to know all the salacious details, baby.
It really depends on how it’s being stored and used, like the other commenter mentioned, it’s standard practice in banking/Brokerage industry to record all calls for training/litigation/coaching.
It doesn’t prevent any fraud when anyone on the Internet can now easily recreate anyone’s voice using AI. Banks should know better.
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It’s in the seventeen page purchase contract that they know nobody reads
Brand
Tesla
Information in privacy policy
Collects voice and video and shares some data with third parties
third parties including whoever video clips get sent to when the staff use them as funny videos and memes…
I’m surprised there aren’t more brands listed
They only looked at 10.
Is there a community for guides on how to rip out the radios?
