• davel [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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      There are still indigenous Palestinian Jews in Palestine (and some are still anti-Zionist), and the “non-Jewish” Palestinians are for the most part simply the descendants of Palestinians who at some point converted from Judaism to Christianity or Islam.

      “Land without a people” my ass.

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      Jews are not Israelis, and the Ottomans are not Palestinians. Conflating these things is an important part of how the Zionist entity justifies itself.

      Also, the 29 “massacre” killed and wounded less than a hundred people. It was part of a larger wave of violence that killed over a hundred Jews, but also killed over a hundred Arabs, and the Jews in Hebron were taken out of the area by the British, not driven out by the violence. Conflating these sparse and disorganized religious riots with the massive and highly organized ethnic cleansing that took place in 48 is a politically-motivated lie perpetuated by Zionists to insist that their claim to the land they’ve stolen is anything but fraudulent.

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        that was 15% of the population of Hebron (4th largest city in Palistine at that moment) at the time, you have to understand how sparely populated Palistine was in the 1920s

        but also killed over a hundred Arabs, and the Jews in Hebron were taken out of the area by the British, not driven out by the violence.

        blatant denial of history, they were driven out again in 31 and 36, and the British were the ones who killed the vast majority of Arabs.

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      The jews are not Israel but Israel definitely wants people to keep conflating them that way.

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        No, but there were Jews in that area. And even more Jews all over the peninsula.

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                Unironically I’ve heard this talking point before, when shouting down a nazi at a rally at my school in 2014. You know the english spelling of Yishuv so I’m going to assume you know what demographic they’re from, and that that’s not physically possible. You can down vote me all you like, but at least I can say I don’t agree with nazis

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                  So its important to make distinctions between different groups of jews, and be aware of historical context, but only when those things are useful for defending the Zionist project. Got it. Thanks. And I haven’t voted on a single comment of yours beyond the first.

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                    I was refering to general downvotes towards stating historical fact, I’m not the one who conflated “indigenous” Jews to the ones literally running for their lives and making it sound as if they collaborated with the nazis. Do you really think I’m a zionist that’s laughable, I just know the history of the region