Stephen Starr in Hamtramck, Michigan
Mon 14 Oct 2024 11.00 EDT

  • simplymath@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Who the fuck said anything about Trump? Not sure why you think people dying from American bombs give a fuck about who sent them.

    Can you crawl out of your narrow worldview for just a second and recognize that real people are experiencing a real genocide?

    That’s not some Russian propaganda spin either, but recognized by the ICJ.

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      2 months ago

      I agree there’s a horrific genocide taking place, aided by the USA, and all Americans should be ashamed of this. But to be fair, the headline indicates these voters will vote against Harris. Either that’s a vote for Trump or a vote for a third party. Either way it increases trump’s likelihood of being elected.

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        2 months ago

        Ok? There’s a simple solution here for the democrats.

        Let’s not engage in victim blaming here and recognize who has power to end this and who is exercising their right to express their profound and utter disappointment in a political system that is, at best, ambivalent to their suffering.

      • SoJB@lemmy.ml
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        2 months ago

        Democrats chose this hill to die on, not the voters.

        You know what it’s called when voters aren’t allowed to vote for the candidate they desire?

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          2 months ago

          No, it’s the voters. You can’t just forever blame your garbage decisions on other people.

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        2 months ago

        calling it the “Israel-Gaza crisis” implies equivalence. As somebody else notes, not using the word genocide is also a strong signal that you don’t believe it’s a genocide. Finally, you used “lol” when talking about a genocide. In short, all evidence in your message suggests that you do not take it seriously.

        If the point of your comment isn’t to minimize suffering and mock people for their political choice, then what is the point of your comment?

        • heavyboots@lemmy.ml
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          2 months ago

          So the two realistic options are Trump and Harris. You do realize Netanyahu wants Trump to win, correct? You do realize Trump isn’t going to do a damn thing except attempt to install himself as God Emperor of the US if he’s elected while utterly ignoring all outside politics, yes? So by not voting for Kamala, that’s what you’re signalling you’re ok with.

          Harris has at least signaled she is willing to consider forcing Isreal to some sort of negotiation table. Although neither side is going to say anything particularly inflammatory ahead of the election because… AIPAC, who has literally thrown millions at any candidate that has spoken out against them pre-election.