Other points:

  • it’s not mutually exclusive with any other neurodivergence, in which case they’re “twice exceptional”;
  • In an environment with unprepared people and professionals, they may be wrongly diagnosed as having some other neurodivergence.
  • It’s not just a high IQ score;
  • Gifted kids can be problem students and have low grades;
  • Homework feels like torture (this is true to any child, tho);
  • They’re very likely to question authorities and point out perceived hypocrisy (emphasis here on perceived, because pointing something and being right are different things);
  • As kids, they may have weird quirks for executing tasks, such as wanting to hold pencils the “wrong” way, or wanting to press against a wall to do homework;

If you’re Brazilian or can understand Brazilian Portuguese, this is the podcast I listened to - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apnuIIePeeA

Aos brasileiros que acabarem encontrando esse post, o podcast que assisti é o que linkei acima

  • otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    9
    arrow-down
    35
    ·
    edit-2
    1 month ago

    “Gifted” is a bullshit word that says more about the state of the Napoleonic educational industry than it does about the poor kid it’s leveled at.

    Fuck “gifted”.

    There is no God.

    Every bit of knowledge & skill that the phrase steals credit for? That kid in question has busted their ass to attain. But, with a couple syllables, it’s all surreptitiously offered at the feet of an ancient comic book character whose modern flock justify war, genocide, rape, genital mutilation, and myriad other human rights atrocities in its “name”. Nah.

    Fuck “gifted”, and fuck your god.

    edit: So many “gifted” here, so confidently ignorant. 🤦🏽‍♂️ That tracks so hard. Good job. Your comments are your reward, O’ “Gifted”.

    edit: Yes, perfect. Cling to the moniker they’ve given you and mentally reconfigure its meaning to make you feel better. That’s how change happens. You’re doing everyone so proud. Truly. So gifted. We’re all so lucky to have you genuises around. Whew. 😭🥰

    • I Cast Fist@programming.devOP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      26
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      1 month ago

      I don’t like the choice of words either, mostly because of all the expectations associated with it, but the rest of your rant just goes off rails

      • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        5
        ·
        1 month ago

        I like rants that go off the rails. I don’t like this safety guardrail world. Give me an unhinged asshole who isn’t afraid to fuck shit up. Those are my people!

        Like imagine if french resistance weren’t willing go blow up nazi train tracks.

        Use your crazy for good!

        • ruckblack
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          6
          ·
          1 month ago

          Well if you like unhinged assholes who argue about nothing and everything regardless of context, lemmy seems to be the place for you

      • otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        19
        ·
        edit-2
        1 month ago

        The “rest of my rant” is lived experience and factually relevant, friend. You can either recognize that reality or keep lying to yourself (and subsequently perpetuate that shit with inaction). You choose.

        “Gifted” is not “talented”, “skilled”, etc. It inherently implies a “gift” by some pre-birth entity, and largely assumed to be whatever god is acceptable in the location of the phrase’s utterance. Don’t play dumb. It’s beneath you.

        edit: Your personal lack of etymological roots is no proof. Read a fuckin’ book, friends. How typical.

        • I Cast Fist@programming.devOP
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          19
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          1 month ago

          My dude, at no point I explicitly or implicitly tried to equate being skilled with being gifted or talented, nor that being gifted has anything to do with religion or god. I didn’t choose the term that the english language uses for this.

          I won’t bother with you anymore because it’s clear you don’t want to talk in good faith, at least not here

          • Nate Cox@programming.dev
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            14
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            1 month ago

            Careful now, “good faith” is religiously charged and implies that God is the source of all good intent, you’re gonna set this person off with that.

            (/s hopefully obviously)

        • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          18
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          1 month ago

          I’m hardcore atheist and have never thought of Gifted as having any religious connotation. A genetic gift doesn’t imply a creator. Gift means you received something with the connotation that it was unearned.

    • Rookwood@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      20
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      1 month ago

      This is a dumb take. A “gifted” kid is literally one who doesn’t have to try as hard as the other kids. Busting your ass comes later once you age out of grade school and have to develop personal discipline and systems and that is where most “gifted” kids fail because excelling in education has been so easy for them so far.

      • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 month ago

        The other issue with Gifted “failing” when they get older is that it’s classification based on age.

        That is if a 5 year old has the mental age of a 10 year old, they will be classified as Gifted. But that accelerated aging doesn’t necessarily result in someone smater at age 18. Their brain matured early and peaked at average.

    • ruckblack
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      7
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 month ago

      It just means a person who is born with more innate talent than the average. Which some people are. Your rant indeed goes off the rails. It ain’t that deep chief.

    • antlion@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      1 month ago

      I’m a gifted atheist. It has nothing to do with god. It means I didn’t have to work for it - I was born with the genetics for it. Some people are gifted aesthetically. Others with intelligence. Others athletically. Some are gifted musically. Genetics is real. If you are given something at birth, it’s a gift. A gift from your ancestors and parents.

    • snek_boi@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      edit-2
      1 month ago

      It sounds like you really care about fairness, in the sense of giving credit to the hard work behind learning. Do you know the phrase “dead metaphor”?

    • ruckblack
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      1 month ago

      Laughable that you’d call everyone confidently ignorant while you get downvoted into oblivion. Try some humility. Maybe this rant was misplaced, and you’re wrong for going off with it. There was no religious connotation implied with the original post. You misread. Get over it.

      • otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        1 month ago

        Yes, yes, again your lack of understanding is shite proof, but go on with your fantasy meritocracy, kiddo. So gifted. Aww.

        • ruckblack
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          1 month ago

          I understand just fine, thank you. You’re reading a religious connotation where there is none, and you can’t seem to let that go. You’re hung up on the etymology of the word lmfao.

          Lmfao all these edits instead of responding directly. Cope harder, dude.