• iorale@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    22 hours ago

    I dunno, I keep seeing almost only propaganda whenever my country in mentioned and it gets defended a lot because “muh left”, and it’s really off putting.
    If I wanted misinformation and disinformation, reddit is already filled with bots that do that whenever the goverment is criticised and mods that do nothing against those bots.

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      8 hours ago

      Fully agreed. Lemmy‘s developers being tankies influences the whole ecosystem negatively. The strong presence of FOSS activists here adds another group of ideologues. Even mods outside lemmy.ml will moderate along similar hard ideological lines. Political content is often an echo chamber on lemmy. Downvotes for disagreements are the norm. The mods are more arbitrary than even those on Reddit. I’ve seen many times how they delete posts and replies, just because they offer disagreeing information. There are lots of unwritten arbitrary rules. Users are banned and the communities they founded are deleted with all their posts. I’ve seen lots of useful content removed through this mechanism. Overall moderation is far more arbitrary here than on Reddit.

      Most other Reddit alternatives were filled with racists and cp. Lemmy is a haven for tankies.

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        The important thing about the fediverse is that you can federate with Lemmy but use an alternative platform. If you don’t like the devs of Lemmy there is mbin and piefed

        Reddit has its own “left-lite” communities (called left lite because they definitely aren’t as far left as grad or ml) that are very popular and hit the front page constantly. The difference is that Lemmy leftists are intolerant of liberals (and vice-versa). Hopefully a bit better balance is struck here but I’ve been able to curate my feed to make liberal-leftist conflict less visible.

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          I don’t know if this is worth my time. It’s not just lemmy.ml and hexbear. lemmy.world, solarpunk, and feddit.org are also affected for example.

          sh.itjust.works seems to be the exception. Answers that are tolerated in [email protected] get deleted or users banned on world, worldnews, news, and similar. I’m strictly talking about posts that don’t violate any written rules.

          I suspect this is a major reason why lemmy isn’t more popular and growth has stalled. The core users are free software true believers and Marxist fundamentalists and want to stay among themselves.

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            5 hours ago

            I would say it’s still worth reporting. I don’t follow news or politics very closely, but having propaganda reported is always useful.

            I suspect this is a major reason why lemmy isn’t more popular and growth has stalled. The core users are free software true believers and Marxist fundamentalists and want to stay among themselves.

            I don’t think so. I’ve contacted a few mods from different subreddits to ask to create one post to talk about Lemmy, and how it could be an alternative to Reddit enshittification, all of them have been negative.

            People are not magically going to learn about Lemmy if the platform which is the most similar does not allow to talk about it: https://sopuli.xyz/post/17981609

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      7 hours ago

      Reddit has a ton of propaganda, too. You won’t escape it online. It’s worse on Reddit though because it’s bigger, so a more obvious target to astroturf.