• OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
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    4 hours ago

    That’s a deliberate mischaraterization of my position. There is not a single thing I’ve said anywhere that could possibly be construed into what you said.

    Obviously, people flocking to fascism is bad. But that is what’s going to happen so long as what passes for the left is aligned with the declining status quo. That’s why the only two possibilities for stopping fascism are implementing policies that will actually stop the decline, or creating a leftist party that can criticize the establishment while offering a non-fascist explanation of the decline and how to fix it.

    Since you retracted your disagreement with my third statement, I’ll ask again - which of my three statements is wrong?

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      3 hours ago
      1. Your strategy is for people to get fed up with the status quo (Dems) and unseat them for good.

      2. You cite examples of how this plays out in fascist states all the time.

      Seems like a justified characterization.

      My rejection is entirely contingent on your rejection of what I had mistakenly presumed was an implicit assumption: the goal is to disrupt the status quo with a leftist power, not a fascist one.

      If you reject that assumption, then sure, you are doing exactly the right thing to help unseat the status quo with a fascist power.

      If you want to adopt that assumption, then no I still disagree with your third statement.

      All the examples you could think of were specifically fascist. The strategy doesn’t work for leftists, it specifically breeds fascism. There’s no evidence of this strategy replacing the status quo with leftists.

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        2 hours ago

        Your strategy is for people to get fed up with the status quo (Dems) and unseat them for good.

        Liar. Where did I claim this?

        What I’ve said, that you’re deliberately mischaraterizing, is that people will inevitably get fed up with the status quo (Dems) and turn to fascism, unless something is done to stop it, either the Dems enacting the necessary policies or people moving to a new party, which are what I advocate for. In other words, the exact opposite of what you’re characterizing my position as.

        Is this all you have? You can’t actually find fault with my reasoning, so finding yourself backed into a corner you just try to lie and slander your way out of it?

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          2 hours ago

          unless something is done to stop it, which is what I advocate for

          Water on the grease fire

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              2 hours ago

              Like I said

              I’m not gonna nuh-uh-yuh-huh with someone who doesn’t understand elections

              I made my point, it remains valid. You’re throwing water on a grease fire because it’s obvious to you that water puts out fire.

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                The only reason you’re talking about “nuh-uh-yuh-huh” is because you can’t make a coherent argument beyond that.

                Your “point” is grounded in deliberate lies and mischaracterization.

                Me: If I see something that’s going to start a house fire, I should try to stop it or put it out, or, failing that, plan around the house fire occuring.

                You: Your strategy is for the house to burn down.

                In what way is that not a blatant and deliberate lie?