You italicised something. Implying violence as per the post.
International sanctions? How would that even work? You can’t sanction over half the world, let alone prosecute them. Why does New Zealand get sanctioned? Why Europe? Why Canada? What about countries that are collaborating in the Ukraine-Russia war? How about congo?
I italicized something because I believe the west (including France, in this case) does deserve some kind of punishment for their crimes against Palestine. Obviously I don’t think countries who had nothing to do with this genocide need be punished, but at this point much of the western world has enabled it either by direct material contribution or by a failure to boycott, divest, or sanction Israel for their crimes.
It’s not up to me to decide what that justice is or how it’s administered, but I don’t think there’s any arguing that there shouldn’t be some measure of justice for Palestine. Unless you believe Israel has done nothing wrong…?
This is a fantasy
Yup, that’s all we have, because as you alluded to: this is the west’s global hegemony, we’re just living in it.
Sorry, maybe I’m unfamiliar: how are they involved in Israel’s genocide…? Or is that off-topic?
But funny you should mention three of the most sanctioned countries in the world as examples, because what I’m advocating for is just a bit of consistency
Should they also get punishment for their crimes against Palestine? Such as Iran aiding Hamas, Houthis and Hezbollah, effectively instigating more war? And China and Russia’s support of Iran and their mutual exchange of military equipment, intelligence, as well as their extensive propaganda networks?
Or is that off-topic?
Vaguely off-topic, yes, the post is related more to the tankies wishing more Charlie Hebdo massacres, which I’m glad you’ve disavowed. However, their calls for violence are in reaction to Israel-Palestine. For some reason, they believe France, of all countries, deserves massacres for their stance. Rather funny really, shows their ignorance.
Do you believe this is off-topic? If you think it is, we can drop it.
Should they also get punishment for their crimes against Palestine? Such as Iran aiding Hamas, Houthis and Hezbollah, effectively instigating more war?
They are already being sanctioned for this. Meanwhile, the parties currently committing genocide and all of their collaborators have yet to see any repercussions for their contributions. Hell, as long as we’re talking about Iran and the funding of terrorists, would you like to talk about the US funding and providing arms during the Kurdish-genocide? I wonder who (if anyone) was sanctioned for that conflict
Do you believe this is off-topic?
I believe your mention of Iran, China, and Russia is off-topic from the OP, which was about France and the openly racist/islamaphobic cartoon depicting the famine in Gaza. I can only imagine why you might be actively avoiding that topic, even going so far as to clip out the main post and obfuscate the context, including describing the french OP as “anti-Islam”.
I can only assume that omission was an innocent mistake and not in any way motivated by a personal bias against Islam.
These countries have also sanctioned the US, though not in response to the conflict. Sanctions work both ways, you see. However, multiple countries have called for sanctions against Israel and multiple countries have placed tariffs on Israel, Turkey being the most prominent. So there we go, then, justice solved, there’s sanctions and tariffs.
I can only imagine why you might be actively avoiding that topic, even going so far as to clip out the main post and obfuscate the context, including describing the french OP as “anti-Islam”.
These countries have also sanctioned the US, though not in response to the conflict.
I’ll wait for you to tell me which of the sanctions you’re referencing prevent the US from conducting business or financial transactions with major trade partners and that have the weight of the UN Security Council behind them, such as the ones for Iran, China, and Russia, and which have the adherence of the UN and its member states.
A council who’s mission is to promote world peace through unity should be able to pass sanctions against member states that are egregiously culpable for war crimes against civilian populations and genocide. Yet here we are still waiting
No context justifies calls for violence.
Still waiting for your opinion on the cartoon you decided wasn’t worthy of inclusion. I’d settle for your opinion on Islam as a whole, since you seem keen on highlighting islamic terrorism but loath to mention christian, jewish, and secular terrorism.
Oh, so now you’re changing what kind of theoretical sanctions you want. That’s convenient because there are none, and likely won’t ever be any. Good job, you’ve won, you just needed to change your point – Twice. Maybe you should threaten me with being off-topic again? It’ll save you from this embarrassment.
Embarrassment, such as believing the UN stands for peace. The UN has never stood for peace. It has stood for legal means of warfare and applying a coat of paint on bloodshed, so it’s official bloodshed instead of your standard bloodshed. Got an issue with this? I do too, but it’s the best the world has and will most likely be the best we will ever have: flimsy laws and stern letters.
It can be fixed, though. All it requires is for Hamas to declare itself government and surrender. And for the PLO and Hamas (and the many different militant factions) to come to conclusions if Gaza and the West Bank are the same Palestine. Hamas won’t do this, though, because then they’ll be like the Taliban. It turns out terrorist tactics and forces don’t function when there are annoying rules you must follow and an appearance of lawfulness you need to keep, as per the UN. Governing is hard. Turns out using civilian infrastructure and targeting civilians is a war crime (I need to mention that this is also a jab at Israel, because I know for certain that you try to use this comment as a gotcha, lol)
Still waiting for your opinion on the cartoon you decided wasn’t worthy of inclusion.
I don’t care about it. Nothing justifies violence. Why do you struggle to comprehend this?
I’d settle for your opinion on Islam as a whole, since you seem keen on highlighting islamic terrorism but loath to mention christian, jewish, and secular terrorism.
Oh god forbid I highlight Islamic Terrorism about a conflict between Israel and Islamic Terrorists, deary me. You want me to mention the Christian Terrorists, too? What, all one of them? He threw a stone into a window when he was drunk.
This is a lot of waffle as you try steering yourself away from admitting you were insinuating France deserves violence. If I was you, I’d just drop the whole thing and hope people forget this blunder–Works for me.
You italicised something. Implying violence as per the post.
International sanctions? How would that even work? You can’t sanction over half the world, let alone prosecute them. Why does New Zealand get sanctioned? Why Europe? Why Canada? What about countries that are collaborating in the Ukraine-Russia war? How about congo?
This is a fantasy
I italicized something because I believe the west (including France, in this case) does deserve some kind of punishment for their crimes against Palestine. Obviously I don’t think countries who had nothing to do with this genocide need be punished, but at this point much of the western world has enabled it either by direct material contribution or by a failure to boycott, divest, or sanction Israel for their crimes.
It’s not up to me to decide what that justice is or how it’s administered, but I don’t think there’s any arguing that there shouldn’t be some measure of justice for Palestine. Unless you believe Israel has done nothing wrong…?
Yup, that’s all we have, because as you alluded to: this is the west’s global hegemony, we’re just living in it.
And how about Iran, China and Russia? Do they also get this punishment?
Sorry, maybe I’m unfamiliar: how are they involved in Israel’s genocide…? Or is that off-topic?
But funny you should mention three of the most sanctioned countries in the world as examples, because what I’m advocating for is just a bit of consistency
Should they also get punishment for their crimes against Palestine? Such as Iran aiding Hamas, Houthis and Hezbollah, effectively instigating more war? And China and Russia’s support of Iran and their mutual exchange of military equipment, intelligence, as well as their extensive propaganda networks?
Vaguely off-topic, yes, the post is related more to the tankies wishing more Charlie Hebdo massacres, which I’m glad you’ve disavowed. However, their calls for violence are in reaction to Israel-Palestine. For some reason, they believe France, of all countries, deserves massacres for their stance. Rather funny really, shows their ignorance.
Do you believe this is off-topic? If you think it is, we can drop it.
They are already being sanctioned for this. Meanwhile, the parties currently committing genocide and all of their collaborators have yet to see any repercussions for their contributions. Hell, as long as we’re talking about Iran and the funding of terrorists, would you like to talk about the US funding and providing arms during the Kurdish-genocide? I wonder who (if anyone) was sanctioned for that conflict
I believe your mention of Iran, China, and Russia is off-topic from the OP, which was about France and the openly racist/islamaphobic cartoon depicting the famine in Gaza. I can only imagine why you might be actively avoiding that topic, even going so far as to clip out the main post and obfuscate the context, including describing the french OP as “anti-Islam”.
I can only assume that omission was an innocent mistake and not in any way motivated by a personal bias against Islam.
These countries have also sanctioned the US, though not in response to the conflict. Sanctions work both ways, you see. However, multiple countries have called for sanctions against Israel and multiple countries have placed tariffs on Israel, Turkey being the most prominent. So there we go, then, justice solved, there’s sanctions and tariffs.
No context justifies calls for violence.
I’ll wait for you to tell me which of the sanctions you’re referencing prevent the US from conducting business or financial transactions with major trade partners and that have the weight of the UN Security Council behind them, such as the ones for Iran, China, and Russia, and which have the adherence of the UN and its member states.
A council who’s mission is to promote world peace through unity should be able to pass sanctions against member states that are egregiously culpable for war crimes against civilian populations and genocide. Yet here we are still waiting
Still waiting for your opinion on the cartoon you decided wasn’t worthy of inclusion. I’d settle for your opinion on Islam as a whole, since you seem keen on highlighting islamic terrorism but loath to mention christian, jewish, and secular terrorism.
Oh, so now you’re changing what kind of theoretical sanctions you want. That’s convenient because there are none, and likely won’t ever be any. Good job, you’ve won, you just needed to change your point – Twice. Maybe you should threaten me with being off-topic again? It’ll save you from this embarrassment.
Embarrassment, such as believing the UN stands for peace. The UN has never stood for peace. It has stood for legal means of warfare and applying a coat of paint on bloodshed, so it’s official bloodshed instead of your standard bloodshed. Got an issue with this? I do too, but it’s the best the world has and will most likely be the best we will ever have: flimsy laws and stern letters.
It can be fixed, though. All it requires is for Hamas to declare itself government and surrender. And for the PLO and Hamas (and the many different militant factions) to come to conclusions if Gaza and the West Bank are the same Palestine. Hamas won’t do this, though, because then they’ll be like the Taliban. It turns out terrorist tactics and forces don’t function when there are annoying rules you must follow and an appearance of lawfulness you need to keep, as per the UN. Governing is hard. Turns out using civilian infrastructure and targeting civilians is a war crime (I need to mention that this is also a jab at Israel, because I know for certain that you try to use this comment as a gotcha, lol)
I don’t care about it. Nothing justifies violence. Why do you struggle to comprehend this?
Oh god forbid I highlight Islamic Terrorism about a conflict between Israel and Islamic Terrorists, deary me. You want me to mention the Christian Terrorists, too? What, all one of them? He threw a stone into a window when he was drunk.
This is a lot of waffle as you try steering yourself away from admitting you were insinuating France deserves violence. If I was you, I’d just drop the whole thing and hope people forget this blunder–Works for me.