• nonailsleft@lemm.ee
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    1 month ago

    I see it as a joke on how religious fundamentalists would rather condemn their children to die over their own religious choices (which includes waging religious wars)

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      Religion is all these people have left. Can’t condemn them for their last semblance of hope in a hostile environment. Nor can you place sole blame on religion for the conflict. It’s a lot deeper than that

      (They are allowed to eat during Ramadan. that is if Egypt and Israel didn’t withhold international aid, such as flour)

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        1 month ago

        I’d suggest they find something better than religion to put their hope in.

        Claiming this conflict isn’t about religion is like claiming the US civil war wasn’t about slavery. In the end it’s jews that wanted the territory to be jewish, and muslims that wanted the territory to remain muslim. If judaism and islam hadn’t existed, all of the ‘deeper’ reasons and divisions just fall away.

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          1 month ago

          I think you can argue that for every single conflict in history

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            1 month ago

            WW1; WW2; Korea; Vietnam; the Gulf Wars; Russian revolution; French revolution; US revolution; US civil war; …

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          Claiming this conflict isn’t about religion is like claiming the US civil war wasn’t about slavery.

          Err, I actually kinda like this comparison to the civil war - not because the war in Gaza is ‘about religion’ - but because it’s about Israel’s right to occupy/subjugate Palestinian territories and Palestinians within the West Bank and Gaza, which is similar to the South fighting over their right to own/subjugate people of color (though not entirely, since Israel doesn’t claim racial superiority (at least not explicitly)).

          What’s strange about this comparison is that it inadvertently casts Israel as the slavers, even though it seems like the intent is to indict both Judaism and Islam equally

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      Religious fundamentalists do not encourage or instruct fasting during an ongoing famine (not even Islamic ones).

      Thinking that they do (and laughing about it) while they starve at the hands of their colonial occupier is honest-to-god nazi-level genocide apologia.

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        You’d be hard pressed to find a cartoonist more fond of mocking neo-nazi’s than the one who drew this

        It’s mocking adults who’d prefer to die for their religion for condemning their kids (and their kids) to do the same. If you believe they’re starving their kids directly then this newspaper is too difficult for you

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          If you believe they’re starving their kids directly then this newspaper is too difficult for you

          Of course they’re not suggesting they’re ‘starving their kids directly’, but what they are doing is sidelining the colonial power actually responsible for their starvation and instead holding up an inaccurate and bigoted portrayal of their religious practices as a stand-in for Israel’s culpability.

          To blame Muslims for Israel’s sustained genocidal bombardment of innocent Gazans is a level of depraved racist bigotry I honestly never thought I’d witness in my time. The Nazis blamed the Jews for their own extermination, and that is precisely what you are doing here.

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            1 month ago

            Don’t call others Nazis. Not allowed.

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                1 month ago

                What makes you think they’re a nazi?

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                  I don’t, but you stated that like it’s an absolute community rule.

                  Do we need to report suspicious antisocial behavior to the commissars or can we say someone saying actual Nazi things is a Nazi?

                  Does “don’t be a dick” still apply to justified accusations based on evidence, in other words?

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                    If you don’t think they are a nazi, then what’s your concern?

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                why disavow communism?

                The Nazis blamed the Jews for their own extermination, and that is precisely what you are doing here.

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                  That Nazis did blame the Jews for their own extermination, and that is what that person was doing.

                  Nowhere did I say that he was a Nazi.

                  Close, but thanks for following directions.

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                    That Nazis did blame the Jews for their own extermination, and that is what that person was doing.

                    lol

                    ‘I didn’t call him a nazi! I said that he’s being a nazi! completely different.’

                    @[email protected], do you feel as if he called you a nazi?