People keep saying this and I personally don’t really believe it, I think there could be a couple riots, but not like a full on civil war. What does everyone think?

  • bloodfart@lemmy.ml
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    3 hours ago

    No and you should not listen to people who think it could.

    A civil war is large scale armed conflict between groups vying for the levers of power. In the case of the American civil war it was over slavery and came to war because there was no mechanism to integrate the south’s elites into the power structures of the north’s or vice versa and the material bases of those two groups power structures were in opposition.

    What two groups would fight an American civil war nowadays? Democrats and republicans? They serve the same masters. We are witnessing propaganda bent to the ends of integrating members of one group into another.

    Separatist militias? Not only would that not be a civil war, we saw how the fbi handled them in the 90s.

    Corporations? Why would they do that? Government already does the unprofitable things they want and does them how they want them.

    Separatist states? It’s against the economic interests of the very people who would make up the elite class of the new nation of Texas to submit their borders to taxes and tariffs.

    Workers? That’s a revolution, not a civil war.

    If someone wants you to fear modern civil war they’re trying to control you.

    If someone makes art about a modern civil war they’re trying to tell you about something else on the sly, like with zombies.

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      1 hour ago

      In Florida, I have heard it from way too many people to feel comfortable. Republicans will say how they are ready if Trump loses. They say it’s because there is no way he can lose unless it’s all rigged. They believe this will happen. The worst I heard was a guy saying he will shoot anybody he suspects is not on his team. Others were not quite as ready, but definitely as angry and ignorant with the means. Some of the more intellectual I talk to are quick to point out the flaws of Democrats and how that said is more violent because of all the riots.

      Living here is scary. It would be a war of ignorance, frustration, and hate against a false enemy. It will be a passionate group of clueless rebels without an enemy based in reality. Anyone could become a casualty in the chaos. These people are anti-intellectual, basing everything on what they call “common sense.” What that actually mean is whatever reinforces their anger in the moment is the truth no matter how ignorant or hypocritical.

      It feels too real that citizens will be taking up arms. The worst part is not knowing who they will attack since the enemy is all in their heads.

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        23 minutes ago

        It is still not civil war, it is just plain old fascism. The politicians that endorse “vigilantes” to uphold “democracy”, “freedom” or whatever bullshit they can make up, are just exerting regular political violence from the old fascist playbook.

        Making you feel scared is the point.