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      They covered it: slave economy, crony merchantislism, private armies and sections of the government, a “private and public partnership” and an untouchable ruling class and a master race (roman citizens).

      Its not a coincidence that both facsism and City-state sized capitalism were all founded in Italy.

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          Well, if we take away from Rome the things they stole from Greece, there won’t be anything left.

          More seriously though, I mean to the scale that they did and enforcing it on such a large area of the world for so long providing the cultural space for those to develop but I agree, you’re right to mention that.

          Not you, I don’t know anything about you, but its funny that ill usually see people being unhappy about the origin of capitalism part but none, not one of those who don’t like it want to know the origins of capitalism. People who are anti capitalist are often curious but the boot licking lot aren’t remotely interested.

          Which, to me, says it all really.

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            In history, first entrepreneurs were christians… Christianity if not started capitalism, facilitated its development.

            Things like “you gotta marry and have kids”, gender inequality, are all principles that go hand in hand in capitalism.

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            but its funny that ill usually see people being unhappy about the origin of capitalism part but none, not one of those who don’t like it want to know the origins of capitalism. People who are anti capitalist are often curious but the boot licking lot aren’t remotely interested.

            Well, that’s nice and all, but maybe you should take a breath now and then.

            I know we’re all in an oppressive capitalist system, but sometimes, people speak if something else.

            Like when you talk about that cake you made, it’s not necessarily a metaphor for the crushing of the proletariat, you know?

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              Its ok, I’m using my keyboard to type. So, my breathing isn’t really a factor here. Although, I’m sure it sounded clever when you heard someone else say it and decided to repeat it the first chance you got, regardless of how out of place it might be.

              My point, which you seem to have missed or chosen to ignore, is that there seems to be a mental barrier in place for pro-capitalist people. They take no interest in its origin ever. Yhe problem is that people don’t take interest in it all the time and to the exclusion of talking about anything else which is why I didn’t say that and, instead, said something different.

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      Same place same people, ancestors of about a third of 20th Century Italians.