• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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      22 days ago

      What? No. I’m so glad billionaires are a thing. They’re doing all of that polluting on my behalf!

      I mean there’s only 24 hours in a day…

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        And they are collectively shortening our lifetimes too so we pollute less so they can keep their jetliners running during a lunch break in France!

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      What really irks me are people that think there’s such a thing as a “good” billionaire. Had an argument one time because I said all billionaires are inherently shitty, and my colleague was trying to convince me that Bill Gates is actually a good person.

      Get real son, the path to billionaire is paved with blood.

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        21 days ago

        Bill Gates the Microsoft guy? The one that just demolished competition? The same company that ran afoul of US antitrust law? Bill Gates the guy that had a non zero number of African nations ask him to stop helping, that guy?

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      22 days ago

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    The math here is the sort of thing that drives apathy for me to make small incremental changes. If the superrich can dump ~250 avg. emission years over the course of a year, why should I do anything besides lobby against this mode of transport or other large consumers? Maybe it’s a “spirit of the thing,” but changes in my life seem so negligible compared to how ruinous some individuals are acting.

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      There are 801 billionaires in the US out of about 335,893,238 people. If everyone else were to reduce their carbon footprint by even a tenth of a percent then there would be significantly less carbon in the atmosphere than if every billionaire in the US were to reduce their carbon footprint to zero.

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        This is also assuming that the 300+ million Americans have the same size carbon footprint, which is probably not true if you think about it for more than a second. I doubt the bottom 60% of earners in the country have the purchasing power to create that much waste through excess consumerism at this point.

        Most of those “Shein/Temu/Aliexpress” hauls or 10x vacations across the world in a year you see on social media are not done by middle or lower income people/families.

        This is very much a top heavy issue.

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        Sure, but the individual contribution vs. companies / state-owned organizations is like 70% come from 100 companies / orgs. So the individual percentage is still negligible.

        I’m not disagreeing with the math. I’m saying when you want to make changes, you start with the most meaningful funnel. If you have 2 factors contributing to a problem, factor 1 contributes 70%, factor 2 contributes 30%, going after factor 2 seems like a waste of time. 1%s contribute 1000x the amount of the average. Who should be making lifestyle changes here?

        #voidscreaming

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        I can’t get 3 people to agree on lunch. No way are we goi g to all agree on carbon footprint reduction actions.

        It’s easier to stop 801 people vs 335 million.

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        21 days ago

        Or, you know, we could just…you know…do the thing that really takes care of the problem.

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      The “turn the water off while you’re brushing your teeth” crap on TV was a corpo psyop. Individual responsibility is a myth concocted and propagated by the very people who have actually been causing the vast majority of the damage.

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    What people fail to see is that we need billionaires to consume all the wealth we make, otherwise we wouldn’t know what to spend it on. /s