• ntma@lemm.ee
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    I kept trying to tell people that polls and surveys is just astrology for math nerds

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        Apparently those Mussolini style of speeches and the other 50 or so political suicides did not really matter as much as you would think. No matter the outcome this being this close I think spells the end of the USA as a rational power.

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        Not really. Voter engagement always swings more right than left, the fact the numbers aren’t that far off means it’s likely more than 50%.

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    Im more impressed than terrified. Choosing a guy who cheated on his wife instead of decrimanalised marijuana AND better healthcare. How???

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      It’s all cyclical.
      South America goes socialist and back every other election.

      And now some idiots believe Trump can bring back the haydays when America ruled the world economically. It’s not gonna happen, just even through population math. China India has more people and can build things cheaper, so what are u gonna do?

      It is capitalist greed and moving manufacturing to China - what completely eroded US technological advantage. And now same capitalists in US think solution is moving manufacturing to India. Ha. Can’t make that up.

      Like ok - hes gonna put up some tariffs which is probably right, but this not gonna cancel China manufacturing advantage - they’re just gonna sell their cars to the rest of the world. And just wait till comac comes out full force and cancels out Boeing and Airbus.

      Like the dumbest thing US did - not fixing shit up with Russia. That’s the energy that powers China manufacturing, who even knows if China would be able to compete as they do without Russian energy. But nooo, we need Ukraine hurr durr.

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    7 hours ago

    The national identity of being Canadian over the last while has been every four years wondering if the downstairs neighbors are going to decide to restart up the meth lab they keep tinkering with and bracing for the sounds of domestic violence to resume.

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        Not saying our shit doesn’t stink but there’s a certain matter of scale to consider. Leastaways we don’t have nukes we can hand over to the psychopath we are looking at voting in.

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      You’ve described exactly how I feel. And of course, the shit down south is affecting us up here, we have our own lunatic conservatives like Doug Ford, Milhouse and Bernier who aspire to be like the GOP.

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        Conservatism is a worldwide problem and they all borrow each other’s notes. It’s not going to be a fun time for us coming up. I can only hope that when the shit hits the fan down there those up here start rethinking their bullshit.

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    Yeah its one thing if youre a trump supporter because then you are just a sheep but i actually dont understand whats going on in the head if those who have to think about the decision

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    I’m really hoping Harris wins, and we can make politics boring again. I know that if Trump wins, we’ll hear about all the insanity he will put in place for the next four years.

    Sure, if he loses, Trump will cry foul, but that doesn’t have the same legs as it would if he wins.

    I just want Trump to be some washed out TV “celebrity” and politics to be as entertaining as it always is: not very.

    I’m not American and all I hear about right now is American politics. Y’all need to figure your shit out.

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      You are out of your mind, my friend and so far removed from reality. What insanity are you even referring to? America needs rehabilitation, and we’re not getting that with Harris, who has presented herself as utterly clueless in just about all her media interactions. It’s absolutely bonkers how the seemingly majority of people here on Lemmy can’t see this. Yikes! Glad to see the blue wall coming down as I type this.

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      If Trump loses, that dissolves the Trump cult and the next Trump that comes along will just be compared to Trump

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        I wouldn’t count on that. These are cultists who are ready to deify Trump and start sending people to the camps. I don’t think losing an election will change the fundamental cult dynamic, or the hatred and anger that has been organized within the cult. We are stuck with this bullshit probably for the rest of our lives, one way or the other.

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      Trump is not the problem. Trump is the symptom. The problem is a somewhat powerful minority faction in the US actively pushing to dismantle our democracy. Project 2025 wasn’t written by Trump and didn’t write itself.

      Harris’ win is step 1. We then need to push to shore up our democracy and prevent a more cunning trump replacement.

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        7 hours ago

        Watch the movie “Bad Faith”. It lays it all out.

        Tl;Dr: It’s pretty much entirely the fault of Evangelicals.

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        Plus he’s proven that having a cult of personality works, and caused a notable shift in the US Republican party.

        For all we know, that might be a permanent change, rather than a temporary one.

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          I’m just hoping that there’s no one with his “charisma.” Thankfully everyone else scummy enough to be in the GOP is a wet rag in comparison to him so far. He may be a piece of shit, but a con man “confidence man” he most definitely is.

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      If Trump wins, the world will become a way less hospitable place even faster. This is literally the fight for the last resources, and the 1% wants it all. Trump is a Billionaire enabler… nothing else.

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        sorry to say but if trump is junior partner in a billionaire oligarchy firm then harris is their employee as head of hr who pretends to be our friend but is actually their to keep us in check. she was chose as vp by the lobbyists and since then she has only followed their orders.

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    As an American:

    AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

    inhales

    AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

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    Americans are watching this too and wondering what the fuck is wrong with our fellow Americans. This should not even be close.

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      I’m really hoping that it isn’t close and that the polls were lying “just to make it interesting”

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      America is a fascist nation dripping in right wing propaganda.

      If we elect Trump a second time, the only people who can express shock are the ones who have never seen a neighbor wave a Confederate flag, brandish a Blue Lives Punisher logo, have FOX News blasting away in the living room, or demand you laugh at their joke full of ethnic slurs.

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        Trump would make us fascist. We are not currently so.

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          Ok maybe you’re not a fascist country, but you’ve been dipping your toes in the fascism pool for decades, just waiting for the water to be warm enough.

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      Yeah, I really can’t believe Harris is even a viable option. This should be a Trump landslide. 🫡

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      Maybe don’t turn important political processes into a sports match. Try a little logos with your ethos.

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    With electoral reform, we could have more then two artificially limited options. We could have competition in our elections. We could be free…

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      But currently you aren’t and the options are damage control or burning the house down…

      • A French person that was in a similar position a few monthes ago.
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        Great point. If Americans don’t like their options, they should spare a thought for French progressives holding their nose and voting for Macron, over and over and over.

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          Eeeeeeh I’m not going to compare Macron and Harris. She’s not been a stepping stool for the R again and again and again.

          I was referring to our last legislative election (think Congress if you need an American point of reference). It happened last summer and Left wing voters had to make a coalition up to the socialist party and the greens which are our centrist parties.

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            She’s not been a stepping stool for the R again and again and again.

            She’s campaigning with Mike Bloomberg, Jeff Flake, and Liz Cheney. I’ve seen nothing to suggest she’s learned from Clinton or Obama in this regard.

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      I think the first, most realistic progress we can make is to get a few more states to sign the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact. It’s a agreement between state legislature to assign their electors based on the national popular vote, and it automatically goes into effect once enough states have signed on to guarantee 270 electoral votes.

      It bypasses the need to pass a constitutional ammendment that is functionally impossible to get through.

      And it’s within grasp. Enough states have already signed on for 209 of the 270 threshold (Maine just signed it into law in April), with several states pending for another 50 (e.g. Nevada is waiting on governor’ssignature).

      We’re shockingly close to killing the electoral college, and nobody seems to know about it.

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        Trump looks poised to win the popular vote as well. The system doesn’t help but the problem is ultimately us, not the system. We have failed culturally, socially, spiritually, emotionally, however else you want to describe it. Look the failure in the face and prepare yourself to deal with it for the rest of your life.

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      Don’t romanticise it. You’ll still have a small number of options in total, and you’ll be unlikely to shake the dominance of the 2 major parties. You’ll still worry about “wasting” your vote on a party who will get low representation. You’ll still be disappointed when the centre left don’t do anything meaningful. You’ll still be powerless when the right hold government. You’ll still have trouble finding someone you want to vote for.

      Yes it’s better, but it’s not Paradise.

      Source: Lived in New Zealand under MMP for five electoral cycles.

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        As a NZr, I agree. But it does make smaller third parties viable. In NZ, Greens, ACT and NZ First are all third parties where a vote is not wasted if their block wins