Summary

Donald Trump’s decisive victory in the 2024 election leaves no room for ambiguity or an “asterisk” in his legitimacy, as he won both the popular vote and the Electoral College.

This outcome represents a clear mandate from American voters, who knowingly chose Trump’s policies and approach.

The anticipated results include pardons for January 6 participants, attacks on the press, and an administration filled with controversial figures.

By voting for Trump, Americans prioritized divisive rhetoric over democratic values, accepting the resulting turmoil.

  • Voroxpete
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    2 months ago

    At this point even the Libs ditching Trudeau won’t shift things enough. We’re in exactly the same situation as the states; the corporatist, pro-capitalist centre-left party refuses to actually address the real problems that people are facing, so they turn to a right wing populist in the hopes that maybe they will.

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      2 months ago

      I think leftists in Canada need to actively court the right.

      Not in the way the democrats did by actively pivoting right, but by acknowledging their concerns, validating their beliefs that the liberals fucking suck, and trying to direct their frustration towards actual solutions, not a nazi like PP.

      idk. It seems fucking stupid but I don’t know what other hope we have.

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        2 months ago

        I actually completely agree. This is exactly the point Bernie was making when he said that the Dems brought their loss on themselves by abandoning the working class.

        Canadian leftists need to really focus in on issues of cost of living, access to housing and education, the things that working class people are worried about.

        I’m queer, and I’m married to a trans woman. I’m not saying the left should give up on talking about issues of inequality and social justice. But I am saying that we need a message that resonates with working class voters, not just people on the margins.

        We need to make unions cool again. We need to get the rugged individualists excited about solar power (what’s more rugged and self sufficient than powering your home with nothing but the light of the sun?). We need to start talking about cutting those millionaire and billionaire elites down to size.

        This isn’t easy. We’ll need to find careful ways to shape these messages, because there are a lot of thought terminating cliches that you’ll trip up on if you’re too direct. But I think the possibility is there. Even when you can’t talk about “socialism” and collectivism, you can still say things like “community” and “people having each other’s backs.” Appeal to the ideals that they want to think they believe in.

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          1 month ago

          Very well said, thanks for chiming it.

          I’ve lived am extremely privileged life and have only just started engaging with this stuff but I’m feeling pretty hopeless. The Libs are firmly neo-liberal, the NDP don’t seem capable of any sort of positive messaging, and the Cons have nosedived into neo-nazism.

          Local advocacy and education seems like the only way forward for progressive thinkers.

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            1 month ago

            I think my next step is going to be to sign up for NDP membership, so that I can use my voting power to push that party into a more explicitly progressive direction.

            That and, as you said, getting involved in local advocacy and education. That part is going to be trickier since I just moved to a new province so I’m basically starting from scratch.