• sit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    21 days ago

    And this is when you vote for a third party. IMO the mentality of “having to vote one of these two” is toxic for a democratic system.

    It’s a trap and these two parties massively profit off of it.

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      21 days ago

      Its the fundamental death of democracy. There is only ever one “correct” choice on the ballot. No real decision except to show up and vote straight ticket or suffer guilt or derision from your peers.

      This works just as well on Republicans as Democrats. You don’t see any dark horse Buchanans or Perots on the ballot anymore. Conservatives know any vote for someone other than Trump will be seen as a vote for the Democrat, just like Liberals know the opposite. And when the top of the ticket sucks (as with Hilary in 2016 or Romney in 2012), turnout sags and upsets happen.

      The bitter truth Dems can’t face is that they ran bad candidates on weak platforms after disappointing terms in office. And this is what drove down turnout. Not insidious Arabs or nefarious Jill Stein voters or Russia. If they’d had a candidate as appealing to voters as Trump, running on the left side of the ticket, they could have won. Instead, they shed 15M votes chasing the Liz Cheney endorsement.

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      21 days ago

      I hate that you’re not wrong. Gotta get rid of the current “winner take all” electoral system first though…

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      My understanding is that for third parties to become viable at the presidential they have to have first become viable in other levels of government. A third party presidential candidate should be the culmination of bottom up building, not a once every 4 years thing.

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      21 days ago

      And this is when you vote for a third party. IMO the mentality of “having to vote one of these two” is toxic for a democratic system.

      So close, and yet so far.

      The third party isn’t going to save you from the toxic system, nor stand a chance to fix it.

      You can’t reform the system, nor fix it from within no matter how hard you participate. It must be completely eradicated from the root.