In the hours following former President Donald Trump’s election victory, Google searches related to 4B — a fringe South Korean feminist movement that made a name for itself in the mid to late 2010s — surged in the United States.

  • LustyArgonian@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    5 days ago

    What they are missing is that the only reason 4B can be a political statement, is if it was never really okay for women to use their bodies as they would like in the first place.

    Asking us to have children, questioning our decisions with our bodies, is inherently the thing we are rising against. If they didn’t do that, then refusing to have sex with them would be apolitical. It’s only political because men make it so by acting entitled to us and our bodies.

    Is it political to cross a street at a crosswalk? No, it’s what everyone does. It’s expected. It’s only political if you do something like protest by standing in traffic.

    That there is any outcry at all from men shows the movement is necessary.

    • Railcar8095@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      4 days ago

      Yep “we will turn Republican if we don’t get sex!”. No, you were a weirdo that hid it well.

      I’m not sure about how effective or long lasting it will be, but I can’t feel outraged because a woman doesn’t want to have sex, regardless of the reason.

    • Ajen
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      4 days ago

      Are you saying most men on the left secretly want to control women? Is that why you think Trump won?

      • LustyArgonian@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        4 days ago

        Most men on the left? No, most men. That’s what a patriarchy is. Ask a man if he’s a feminist - it’s about that many men who are feminist phobic who reflexively think they are entitled to controlling women.

        I think this election was stolen and Trump is a foreign asset to Russia.

        • Ajen
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          4 days ago

          You sound like you’ve been hurt. If so, I’m sorry. But don’t let them fool you, the real war is the class war. Not this stupid gender war. If you think it’s easy to be a middle or lower class man in this society you’re terribly mistaken.

          • LustyArgonian@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            4 days ago

            Yes, I’ve been hurt by my rights being taken away. If it’s not a gender war then your gender should stop declaring war on ours by taking away our rights.