• akilou
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    11 hours ago

    It’s not 15 million, it’s a few tens of thousands in a handful of swing states. Millions more Harris voters in New England, New York, and California would have had the same result.

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      Yes it is. Don’t misconstrue the results.

      Trump is currently winning the popular vote (73m to 69m). A vast majority of total votes are counted so it won’t go up more than another million or so from there.

      Trump lost the popular vote in 2020, 81 million to 74 million.

      Trump’s margin in swing states is currently well over 100,000.

      Trump’s total vote count basically didn’t change at all, but there are currently 12 MILLION people who just didn’t show up to vote for democrats. Sure the electoral college was “decided” by a few hundred thousand, but this was a collosal collapse of democrat voter turnout nationwide.

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        What they’re saying is that 12 million more votes in States where Democrats already won wouldn’t have changed a thing, it’s the Democrats that didn’t show up in swing States that are to blame.

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          6 hours ago

          It would have won the popular vote, which many on Lemmy are far more concerned about than who wins or loses overall.

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            I think people are pissed that she lost the popular vote because it shows the extent of her loss and how much people didn’t care in general, but the truth is she only needed the popular vote in some specific states in order to win and that’s much less than the 12m votes people keep talking about.

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              The election once again crushed popular Democrat talking points. Republicans can win the popular election, good turnout isn’t a bad thing for Republicans, and spending more leads to winning.

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                11 minutes ago

                The general turnout wasn’t good though, Trump didn’t get as many votes as he did in the past either.

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                  Except the swing states, which almost all had record turnout.