• xmunk
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      One candidate promised to murder more and that does make a difference.

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        And that’s only one big issue. Trump is planning to dismantle a lot of safeguards. Americans lives are about to get ultra shitty.

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          If you had the power to save only one life would you take it, or let them die because you don’t like your options?

          You aren’t as morally pure as you think. We have to do what we can with what we have.

          Now they’re all going to die.

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            All that is required for evil to flourish is that good men do nothing

            You know what the lesser of two evils is?

            Evil.

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              So then enlighten us on what the right choice was in that context if you have answers to everything.

              This isn’t a fucking movie where one heroic group of people overturn a full government.

              The genocide is happening regardless of who got elected. But now, there is absolutely no chance that the genocide ends. At least with Harris, there was a sliver of hope.

              Gaza will be glassed now a 100%, and become a new beach front for Israel.

              Good luck Ukraine, I hope that Europe steps up, because the Russian asset now has the control of the 3 branches.

              And good luck Americans, because for the vast majority of you, life is about to get a lot worst.

              But hey, at least you get to keep your fucking smug attitude of living in unicorn land. I mean, the guy openly said he would be a dictator on day 1, but somehow, Harris had to be fucking impeccable, otherwise, schmucks like would come out of the woodworks to spout your fucking “both sides are the same” rhetoric.

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                Again, I voted for Harris. I am disgusted with her and the Democrats for backing Israel.

                It was not an OVERLOOKABLE decision. They intentionally did it. When someone tells you who they are, believe them. Impeccable? This was low hanging fruit for Harris and she caved to expediency. Unless she really believes Israel should eliminate Palestinians, which again, isn’t rocking my world.

                The Democrat party needs to be dismantled or radically restructured. It has lost its moral compass.

                WE NEED ANOTHER CHOICE. Backing Israel was not inevitable. It was a decision BOTH PARTIES made.

                Sorry if my disagreeing with the Democrats while holding my nose and voting for them makes you angry.

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                  On November 5th and leading up to it, the candidate were chosen. You absolutely need another choice and I wholeheartedly agree.

                  But the message you (you and any person that has the same message) kept hammering made sure that Trump won.

                  Blame for the DNC all you want, but the attitude of the Democrat voting base is also to blame.

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                    I didn’t start talking about it until after the election. Now is the time to change, not a year before an election.

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              I’d easily take less evil than fascist evil. For anyone to not be able to distinguish the two is such a failure.

              Heroically ignorant and without nuance.

              Hush, child

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                And you happily accept without criticism the non-governmental organization that forced you into the trolley decision in real life? Go ahead.

                I decide to criticize.

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                  At no point did I ever say or imply to accept without criticism. If you have to put words in my mouth to make your point, you don’t have one.

                  Survival tip, kiddo:

                  If you have to fight a group of foxes or a group of wolves, always choose the foxes.

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                    I have done nothing but criticize Democrats for running a lousy campaign against a beatable opponent and taking a low-value stance in a high-stakes war.

                    So what the hell is your problem with me if it isn’t that you’re against all criticism of Democrats?

                    I don’t block people often, but your continued use of diminutives to refer to me indicates you are a troll or psychologically immature. I’m a grown man with grandchildren. Blocked.

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          Let’s put this a different way. You were given the choice of saving only one of two children from a burning building, and actively chose to let both of them burn to death, because you couldn’t save both.

          Real superhero Karen energy, right there.

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            That’s not how this works. That’s called “justification”. I voted for Kamala, BTW.

            I really do believe now that the Democrats are encouraging the worst, dumbest, insane opponents hoping that they’ll find one that will finally push people to vote Democrat EVEN THOUGH they offer nothing.

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              Democrats have been neoliberals since the time of the first Clinton campaign. The milquetoast candidates are a direct result of that.

              If you voted, then I’ll recind the analogy towards you. The 15 million democratic voters in 2020 that stayed home for whatever reason in 2024, still did exactly what I just portrayed. They had a choice to make, and they made the choice to do nothing, because things aren’t perfect.

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                And I believe that the extra 15M votes in 2020 were an outlier (probably because of COVID) and we can’t expect to see that kind of turnout again. Not unless something incredible happens.

                And Kamala was not incredible.