Yeah, both sides amiright?

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    Well, to all the folks arguing with me on how voting for Harris was bad because of Gaza: CONGRATULATIONS! You REALLY made a point there. The Palestinians had a chance under Harris. Instead of voting for a chance for the Palestinians, you did nothing or voted for genocide. You did it from the other side of the world, where you won’t have to suffer the consequences.

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      The Palestinians had a chance under Harris.

      based on what data? You’re just making stuff up.

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          It’s pretty obvious that the Gaza protesters were given disproportionate media coverage because Russia paid for it to be pushed as a wedge issue.

          Even this article is just anti leftist propaganda.

          The actual amount of people that protest voted was a non factor this election. The exact same ratios of Muslims, Jews, and young people voter the same this time as in 2020.

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            The turnout of Democratic voters was lower than previous elections. There are too many variables at play to claim anything definitively, but it’s safe to assume that the number of voters who abstained due to the issue was more than zero.

            If a conclusion is going to be drawn about whether the whole genocide topic had a tangible effect on the outcome, it’s important to consider those as well as the protest votes.

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        The entire unhinged right wing has been declaring them UnPersons for decades. I remember in the 90s, possibly earlier, hearing wingers saying “Palestine is not even a country, it was made up by the libs/Muslims, using the term ‘Palestinian’ is talking nonsense”, and so on.

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        8 hours ago

        One mention of Harris to say she’s not taking over for Biden

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          There is no reason to think Harris would’ve been any different than Biden on this issue. She repeatedly said she was in agreement with Biden on this, i don’t care if it was during an election people need more to go on than the hope that she really feels different inside

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            That’s cool because Trump stance was even more extreme, but since he’s saying insane things every minute, no one batted an eye. But Harris had to be perfect. How do you even reconcile what you say with the reality you have in front of you.

            Trump said in no uncertain terms that he would back Israel, he’s confirming it today and you still spout that “both sides” inane shit.

            What more do you need to admit that your point is bullshit.

            With Harris, there was a sliver of hope that there could be change and with Trump it was sure that Israel would do whatever it wanted. You look at that shitty situation all around, and you still think Harris was the worst choice versus the openly fascist dictator?

            There is no sane universe where you can defend that point of view, yet here we are.

            Palestine is fucked, good luck Ukraine, and fuck any American that isn’t white, Christian and straight I guess. But hey, both sides, right?

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              I think many people felt that Harris was a failure, just as they felt Biden was a failure. And she didn’t have to be.

              Don’t run a bad candidate if you wanna win. This is common sense. And if you try anyway and lose, don’t blame others for it.