• Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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    9 hours ago

    Am I wrong in thinking “Russia launches massive attack on Ukraine” is a headline I see weekly, after which I don’t hear about any gains by Russia?

    • andrew_bidlaw
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      7 hours ago

      Russian gains aren’t usually connected to these attacks at all.

    • Maggoty@lemmy.world
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      3 hours ago

      Despite appearances, this is Russia trying to bomb things like tank factories. It’s just actually really hard without stealth and only some of their long range drones/missiles have good guidance systems. So they hardly ever hit what they’re aiming for, when they manage to make it past Ukrainian air defenses.

      In the past they’ve just fired enough to level everything within the dispersion area. That’s more effective with artillery shells because they’re much harder to intercept. But they don’t have the range to reach strategic targets deep inside Ukraine.

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          2 hours ago

          His statement is unfortunately untrue and part of the Russian narrative (although probably the poster is unaware).

          Russia is deliberately targeting civilian infrastructure to freeze out Ukrainian civilians in the hopes they will force their government to capitulate. This is the modern version of carpet bombing cities. Their ballistic missiles are plenty accurate and the only types of weapons that can properly damage hard targets like powerplants.

          Ukraine is cold now, and will be colder in a few weeks. By products of power generation is heat, and used for heating homes.

          Russians target hospitals, universities, cultural centres and locations with a lot of citizens. They even do double tap attacks (hitting a civilian target like a coffee shop and then 7 minutes later… once first responders arrived hit the exact same place again).

          A random housing block far behind the front might be deviated ordenance… hitting powerplants with a kinzal missile is not.

    • PugJesus@lemmy.world
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      8 hours ago

      Each side is trying to wear down the other rather than make massive territorial gains as in the early days of the war.

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      9 hours ago

      You can check the updates using this map to see Russian gains in the war.

      Here is the latest update:

      • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        5 hours ago

        I used to look at that site quite often but can you explain where I am shoving my head up my ass on that image you posted.

        Shouldn’t: Total Temp occupied = (Occupied after + occupied before - liberated )?

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          5 hours ago

          Nah it’s Occupied after = Total temporary occupied - liberated. At least approximately. Occupied before seems to be included in occupied after, that is, both numbers count Crimea and the “people’s republics”.

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              2 hours ago

              Oh, wait, no: Total temp occupied = occupied after + occupied before makes more sense. It’s liberated which is not included in any equation and no bar shows currently occupied. which should be temp occupied - liberated.

      • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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        9 hours ago

        Okay, but that really doesn’t answer my question. I’m talking about week by week not everything after almost two years ago. Of course they have occupied more of Ukraine once they invaded.