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Ukraine fired US-made ATACMS missiles into Russia’s Bryansk region, marking the first time Ukraine has used these longer-range weapons to strike targets deep inside Russia.

The attack comes after the Biden administration authorized Ukraine to use these weapons against targets inside Russia.

In response, President Putin updated Russia’s nuclear doctrine, labeling aggression from non-nuclear states supported by nuclear powers as a joint attack on Russia.

  • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
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    29 days ago

    Lol, my dude… You do remember he also ended the nuclear agreement with Iran and then assassinated their most idolized military commander?

    I recall, yes.

    It feels very odd to watch an American president do correct things for the wrong reasons. It’s much more familiar to watch people like Bush, Obama, and Biden doing the wrong things for reasons that aren’t provided to the public, because the narratives given around US wars are nearly always false.

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      28 days ago

      feels very odd to watch an American president do correct things for the wrong reasons.

      Lol, war with Iran… A correct thing?

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        28 days ago

        No, I’m referring to getting us out of Afghanistan and Syria specifically.

        But you’ve noted, surely, that the US does largely support war with Iran by funneling WMD’s to Israel, right? Unless you voted Green, you explicitly lent your support to it via your ballot.

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          28 days ago

          No, I’m referring to getting us out of Afghanistan and Syria specifically.

          Oh yeah, how are the people in those two countries doing now?

          you’ve noted, surely, that the US does largely support war with Iran by funneling WMD’s to Israel, right?

          Yeah, it was pretty much guaranteed after the pull out from the nuclear deal…almost like elections have consequences.

          Unless you voted Green, you explicitly lent your support to it via your ballot.

          Lol, it’s a two party system. If you voted green you still lent your support to supporting a genocide, just in an incredibly stupid way.

          We all pay taxes to a government supporting a genocide, some of us just don’t want it to get even worse.

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            28 days ago

            Oh yeah, how are the people in those two countries doing now?

            I could not care less. I’m more concerned with how people are doing here in the US.

            Yeah, it was pretty much guaranteed after the pull out from the nuclear deal…almost like elections have consequences.

            I’m sure feeding WMD’s to the Israelis for use against Iran won’t be problematic for that.

            Lol, it’s a two party system. If you voted green you still lent your support to supporting a genocide

            False. The Greens are the only party expressly opposed to helping Israel murder people at will, but you can create whatever justification you like for the support you lend to it.

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              28 days ago

              could not care less. I’m more concerned with how people are doing here in the US.

              Lol, at least you admit it.

              I’m sure feeding WMD’s to the Israelis

              I’m pretty sure you don’t care about that.

              The Greens are the only party expressly opposed to helping Israel murder people at will, but you can create whatever justification you like for the support you lend to it.

              Again, I think you need to look up what a two party system is.

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                28 days ago

                Thank you for the discussion.

                It’s fascinating to watch you and others engage with people who you know disagree with you in this way, especially after two weeks ago.

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                  28 days ago

                  I wish I could say the feelings mutual.

                  It’s fascinating to see how people like you seem to imagine everyone who disagrees with you as some sycophant obsessed with a political party. When in reality I’m not a fan of Democrats, and expected them to lose. I’m just kinda disgusted with the amount of people who don’t understand the very basic concept of harm reduction.

                  I am the product of a bi-racial marriage, in a bi-racial racial marriage, living in one of the most conservative states in America. I’m worried for trans and queer friends, I’m worried for my openly bisexual wife, and I’m worried about some of my patients. Several of which are families that have been brave enough to seek gender affirming care for their kids in Oklahoma of all places.

                  The last time Trump was elected we had to do so much more work creating mutual aid and self defense networks. When that man is in power, people get more aggressively bigoted.

                  I get that symbolically voting green is great. In reality everyone knows that in modern times it’s statistically impossible for 3rd parties to win any significant election. It’s just sad to realize that so many people forget the very basics of mutual aid. And on a personal note, financially it’s just not a great time for me to restart my defense and aid budget.

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              28 days ago

              Just so I have this straight- you care deeply about Palestinians but don’t give a shit about Syrians or Afghans? Why?