The documents provide never-been-seen insight into the current cat-and-mouse game between forensics companies and phone manufacturers Apple and Google.
  • mac@lemm.eeEnglish
    3·
    6 hours ago

    Has there been any information about how long physical access is needed for these attack methods to extract data?

    I’ve got my auto restart set at 8 hours, in graphene’s mastodon thread, they say 10 minutes is best for highest levels of security. The short time frame given in that thread makes me wonder if these exploits give instant access to data.

    • jet@hackertalks.comEnglish
      3·
      5 hours ago

      Typically the attacks don’t take 10 hours… they take seconds, what takes time is getting the captured device a laboratory and the laboratory having time to look at it. So what will happen usually is the phone is put into a faraday bag, hooked up to a usb charger, and put on a shelf until the laboratory can get around to it.

      Once the lab starts attacking the phone, it could take seconds as I said above, but some attacks are more involved requiring the phone to be disassembled and leads soldered onto the board. The restarting is about reducing the time the lab has before they can start and finish their attack

      The same process applies to computers and laptops as well, there are lots of mouse jigglers for sale to prevent a screen saver from going on.

  • TechnoFish@lemm.eeEnglish
    22·
    17 hours ago

    One good thing about windows phones was that hardly anyone would have been insane enough to spend resources to develop a forensic tool for it.

    • ERROR: Earth.exe has crashed@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      246·
      16 hours ago

      Lol, did you see what windows computers do? They literally upload your key to microsoft. Like they aren’t event hiding the fact. If you don’t create a microsoft account to allow for the upload, then they just store the key unencrypted and its effectively like no encryption.

      • lud@lemm.eeEnglish
        1·
        2 hours ago

        That’s because people are stupid enough to never write down their keys and it’s better to have somewhat worse encryption compared to no encryption.

        In an enterprise the recovery keys are most often stored in AD or Entra.