“Because in 2024, Ukraine is no longer facing Russia. Soldiers from North Korea are standing in front of Ukraine. Let’s be honest. Already in Ukraine, the Iranian ‘Shahedis’ are killing civilians absolutely openly, without any shame,” said Zaluzhny, adding that North Korean and Chinese weapons are flying into Ukraine. Zaluzhny urged Ukraine’s allies to draw the right conclusions. “It is still possible to stop it here, on the territory of Ukraine. But for some reason our partners do not want to understand this. It is obvious that Ukraine already has too many enemies. Ukraine will survive with technology, but it is not clear whether it can win this battle alone,” he said.
Or Russia could fuck off back to their own country. That’s the easiest solution.
That only happens in fairy tales; this is the reality of the world we live in.
Hahaha. Well, cry me crocodile tears. These pseudo-peacenik concern trolling about saving Ukrainian lives by advocating for them to surrender, but not once from this rhetoric ever explicitly condemned Russia for blatant violation of international laws and called Putin to withdraw his troops. That’s the only way for the war to be over!
Дa товарищ?
I have made numerous comments condemning Russia’s actions, and I do not support what they have done. Let me be clear: there is nothing pseudo about my concerns for the people of Ukraine. To bring some perspective, in what reality do you believe Russia would willingly relinquish land gained through bloodshed? The suffering of people is a serious matter and should never be treated lightly.
ми не товариші!
No one wins ever in appeasing a tyrant. It is though that ever worked and did not lead to a major war before.
“*Meet me in the middle.” said the unjust man
You take a step forward and he takes a step back
“Meet me in the middle.” said again by the unjust man*
You do realise that more Ukrainians will die in the future if you are truly concerned? It is obvious that Putin will use any lull to lick his wounds and attack again. He lied multiple times. Why And more importantly, the longer the war drags, the more it becomes more disadvantageous for Russia, even if Ukraine could not win back their territory. Look, sure Russian economy has experienced growth, but as with any economy on a war footing, their economy is already overheating as inflation is rising. The Russian Central Bank increased their interest rate to 21%; ninety-eight percent of all Chinese banks are refusing to give loans to Russia for fear of secondary sanction; there is labour shortage which increases wage on the private sectors as they have to compete with army wages set by Kremlin; and as the war drags on, more Russian men and women are either fleeing or dying which hurts the Russian economy. Now, with manpower shortage, Russia is now relying on North Korean soldiers because he fears further mass mobilisations will cause political chaos. And even so, there is already a growing political rift among the Russian oligarchs and we see the cracks growing and growing the longer the war takes. Not to mention releasing and pardoning Russian prisoners for war effort is already causing rising crime rate to soar and social backlash to communities who received former convicts turned recruits.
No one except armchair generals playing Starcraft, Hearts of Iron or Company Heroes is expecting Ukraine to pull a gamey, miraculous military victory and then march to Moscow. Seeing as letting Putin gain any sort of concessions is any victory to him and will use the lull period to recuperate to attack again, the liberal democratic world should not allow that to happen. Ukraine knows this. They are fighting for their own survival and have nothing to lose so they keep going. You could easily Google to see how many Ukrainians are still willing to fight-- even if they don’t retake Crimea or other territories. That’s why they attacked Kursk in spite of Putin’s nuclear threat. To them, submitting to Kremlin is as good as being nuked because they will face genocide regardless. So they took the gamble, and lo and behold the nuke threat turns out to be just another bluff like the last ones.
However, any ongoing war is always unpredictable. No one expected Ukraine to still keep fighting. No one expected them to retake much of Kharkiv, Kherson and Donetsk. No one expected Russia to still stand following the humiliation. If Putin is somehow able to keep his power and much of his current gains in the foreseeable future, the best that Ukraine could do is to serve him a humiliating political defeat à la North Vietnam against the US by making Putin pay for every inch of the ground gained. But Putin’s gains could likely be reversed, when he’s gone, because the long term social and financial consequences of invading Ukraine will take effect in the coming generations. Russia will become less of a great power than it was before 2022.
I completely agree that ideally there should be peace, but there needs to be guarantee that Ukraine will not be invaded ever again by duplicitous Russia. Either let Ukraine join NATO or repossess some nuclear weapons.
Russian strength has already been significantly undermined, and the defense of Kyiv in the early days of the war stands as a remarkable story of resilience that deserves detailed recognition. The Ukrainians achieved what many considered impossible.
As for Russia, its people chose Putin as their leader, and that is the reality we must navigate in any negotiations. While it is crucial to maintain open dialogue with Russia, this does not equate to appeasement. Instead, it is about finding opportunities to work together rather than perpetuating conflict.
That said, the United States has a history of negotiating in bad faith, making it difficult to claim the moral high ground in this situation. A collaborative and balanced approach is essential for achieving a lasting resolution.
We’re talking about Ukraine and Russia being in conflict and has to negotiate. What guarantee is there that Russia will respect Ukraine’s own sovereignty and will not invade again?
If we had open diplomacy and a strong NATO… what do you think would happen if Russia did that?
Hopefully Russia is completely devastated and it’s government and leadership destroyed and much of his population wiped out so they cannot be a threat to anyone else
What only happens in fairy tales are “diplomatic solutions” in a war like this one. Russia will not negotiate if they are not allowed to keep what they stole. They can’t be allowed to do that. So there will not be peace until either Ukraine gives up or Russians feel continuing this war is too costly for them.
When a country loses life taking territory it is very unlikely they will ever give it up. I would love to see Russian return those territories to Ukraine and even pay them for all the damage. Thats not going to happen and we can keep fighting to pet our egos but at the expense of innocent people? I dont mean military but civilians who now dont have clean water, power, medical help etc. They are an indirect loss to both sides that everyone ignores. They deserve peace that is all Im saying. I don’t like Russia I dont support what they did!
“We” are fighting nobody. The Ukrainians are. And as long as they want to keep fighting the invaders, it’s only right to assist a country that’s only defending itself.
The majority of Ukrainians are forced to remain in their country and fight, often separated from their families, highlighting the harsh realities of war. Your perspective appears influenced by an idealized, cinematic portrayal of conflict, whereas the adage “War is hell” reflects its true nature. In any scenario, peace is always preferable to war, as no dimension exists where war surpasses peace in its value or consequences.
How much money do you make per post?
I am deeply passionate about this situation because it is one that could potentially impact me in the future. Our civilized way of life is a remarkable privilege that we often take for granted. However, both natural disasters and wars have the potential to disrupt or permanently erase it.
That wasn’t an answer, that was sidestepping it.
“Peace” with the third Reich was not preferable to opposing them in the Second World War. There are some people left who had to suffer under the Nazis, they could tell you about that.
But generally you have the right idea, we just disagree in the definition of peace. A state in which Ukraine capitulates and becomes a Russian vassal state, where political dissent is not tolerated the Ukrainian culture and language are russified and opposition is violently cast down can not be classified as peace in my opinion. It’d be the continuation of the war against the Ukrainians with different means, or more likely with very similar means but less international attention.
That is the critical lie. This war was easily avoidable, and easily endable. Russia’s red lines are/were 100% reasonable.
What do you believe those reasonable red lines to be?
The only reason we are officially fighting is to keep Ukraine nazified while dangling future NATO membership. Its actually far more preposterous in that no one seriously wants Ukraine in NATO, and so its just pure disrespect of Russia to diminish Russia.
If Russia doesn’t want to be disrespected, they should quit doing fucking stupid things
So what? None of it was happening on their soil, no threats were made. They had no cause even if your bullshit assertion were true.
Yes, it was very easy to avoid, by Russia not invading another country without provocation.
And if you’re going to spout some bullshit about them not wanting Ukraine to join NATO or the EU, well… That’s none of their damned business. It’s not their country, and they’re not a member of either, so they have no say in the matter.