“Because in 2024, Ukraine is no longer facing Russia. Soldiers from North Korea are standing in front of Ukraine. Let’s be honest. Already in Ukraine, the Iranian ‘Shahedis’ are killing civilians absolutely openly, without any shame,” said Zaluzhny, adding that North Korean and Chinese weapons are flying into Ukraine. Zaluzhny urged Ukraine’s allies to draw the right conclusions. “It is still possible to stop it here, on the territory of Ukraine. But for some reason our partners do not want to understand this. It is obvious that Ukraine already has too many enemies. Ukraine will survive with technology, but it is not clear whether it can win this battle alone,” he said.

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    The Allies should have done the same after Germany overran France. Why did they had to escalate things by bombing the Reich?

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        He’s making fun of you by saying the whole world should have given up to Germany in WW2, like you suggest Ukraine give up to the brutal rapisit invaders.

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          He is making fun of a conflict where people he couldn’t care less for are dying. Yeah real funny!

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              Does it appear that I find the loss of life in war humorous? Have you carefully considered my comments on this issue? Your response seems to reflect a bad faith interpretation of my position. It seems that your focus is more on justifying the conflict than on the individuals who are directly affected by it in Ukraine. For many, the reality is that we would struggle to endure even two weeks without basic necessities like running water. How long do you think it would take for your perspective on this war to change? Would it take a certain number of casualties, or perhaps another 1,000 days of conflict?

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                I obviously wasn’t making a joke. I was comparing the situation from 1940 with today. Would you also have said the Allies should just make peace at any cost or did they do the right thing to prevent even more suffering?

                Get a grip on reality, you can’t give dictators and aggressors an inch. It would be just an invitation for them.

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                  Had the Allies pursued peace earlier, countless lives could have been spared, and many cities would not have needed to be rebuilt. Additionally, Japan would not have experienced the devastation of atomic bombings. If you believe that prolonging a conflict is preferable to achieving peace, I believe a sobering reflection on the consequences of war is necessary.

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              To constitute a joke, there must be a clear punchline. What he said, however, lacked coherence, and I sought clarification, which he ultimately failed to provide.

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                    Doing something analogous to what you’re saying should happen could have prolonged the Second World War by years. Doing the opposite of what you’re suggesting but much sooner could have shortened the Second World War by years. Germany could only afford to get anything done because it was able to loot the countries it invaded during the appeasement era, and only able to manufacture military equipment at the scale necessary to invade France etc. because it was permitted to scale up manufacturing during the appeasement era. It’s nearly universally accepted that the appeasement era cost far more lives than would have been lost had France and Britain intervened during the initial invasion of Czechoslovakia as it could have been enough to entirely prevent the later invasions of Poland and France.

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                  Responding to my post indicates that you are engaged, yet your reply consists solely of insults and fails to contribute meaningfully to the discussion. A reflection of who you are!