But calling out shiti parenting is no no spot within our society
With that said shiti parenting is largely result of poor social economic conditions. Even if you want to be a good parent it is very hard to do unless you got economic means AND time.
I would generalize that more to, “People operate and react to the system they’re in.” For kids, a huge part of that is their parents, but there are other factors involved like social media, and the wider society.
So many people want the simple answer, so they say it’s “personal responsibility” and nothing else. We need to create/adjust our systems to generate the outcomes we want. As you point out, socioeconomics play a huge part so we not only need to relieve those burdens, but also provide specific supports in schools and the wider communities.
Yeah, exactly. We’ve been running on “personal responsibility” as the core ethic of society for 50 years now, and, uh… I mean, it hasn’t worked out here, I’m not sure why anyone would believe that it’ll work for 10 year olds.
Sometimes the parents just don’t know because the kids act lije saints at home in a rule structure, but school has low authority to do anything now and students know this. Source, two of my kids entered the teaching profession recently.
I don’t claim it is all, but kids are incredible manipulators. And then you get the parents that are oppositional to information that doesn’t fit their view of their child. The kids see that parent backs them up, no matter what and so next week is same behavior problems. And the one school administration did not want to report behaviours to parents. I assume it then has to be logged and scored somewhere against a rating.
But yes it is the parents job, I totally agree. My kids are doing behavior work /parenting work at school which kills teaching lessons
With that said shiti parenting is largely result of poor social economic conditions. Even if you want to be a good parent it is very hard to do unless you got economic means AND time.
“they” are clearing “trying” hence why all of the “developed” economies expect Israel are entering a demographic transition, which is resulting in labour shortages.
Kids emulate adults…
Blaming them is pathetic lol
But calling out shiti parenting is no no spot within our society
With that said shiti parenting is largely result of poor social economic conditions. Even if you want to be a good parent it is very hard to do unless you got economic means AND time.
I would generalize that more to, “People operate and react to the system they’re in.” For kids, a huge part of that is their parents, but there are other factors involved like social media, and the wider society.
So many people want the simple answer, so they say it’s “personal responsibility” and nothing else. We need to create/adjust our systems to generate the outcomes we want. As you point out, socioeconomics play a huge part so we not only need to relieve those burdens, but also provide specific supports in schools and the wider communities.
Yeah, exactly. We’ve been running on “personal responsibility” as the core ethic of society for 50 years now, and, uh… I mean, it hasn’t worked out here, I’m not sure why anyone would believe that it’ll work for 10 year olds.
Sometimes the parents just don’t know because the kids act lije saints at home in a rule structure, but school has low authority to do anything now and students know this. Source, two of my kids entered the teaching profession recently.
hmm, i don’t buy this tbh. either way, it is their damn job eitherway
I don’t claim it is all, but kids are incredible manipulators. And then you get the parents that are oppositional to information that doesn’t fit their view of their child. The kids see that parent backs them up, no matter what and so next week is same behavior problems. And the one school administration did not want to report behaviours to parents. I assume it then has to be logged and scored somewhere against a rating.
But yes it is the parents job, I totally agree. My kids are doing behavior work /parenting work at school which kills teaching lessons
And this is why teacher shortages will continue… no sane person would sign up for this imho
Yeah, another extended family member quit teaching after two weeks. The extra time and BS was not worth the money
Have they tried NOT having kids then?
“they” are clearing “trying” hence why all of the “developed” economies expect Israel are entering a demographic transition, which is resulting in labour shortages.
hence why in migration post COVID 2-3x…