Hello guys,

I am not a member of sh.itjustworks, so I know I cannot become the new moderator/admin of any of your community.

That being said, I do have a question regarding one of your inactive community I have recently started trying to revive by posting regular content: https://sh.itjust.works/c/journaling

The community has seen no activity since its creation and I have yet to hear back form its admin I contacted a few days ago. Inactive or not, there are a couple hundreds members subscribed to it.

So far, I have posted 4 or 5 new topics and, even though modest, it seems to generate some activity. Which I find encouraging.

But before I invest any more energy into this, other users I have discussed the question with have suggested I should make sure I or someone else will be able to moderate the community if a troll, or worse, was to find their way inside.

Others have also suggested that it would be simpler to create a new community on my own instance (jlai.lu) and invite members of the existing one to join there. I could do that, but I am not a fan of the idea of creating a new community where there is already one existing unless there really is no other option. I mean, it’s not new communities we lack on Lemmy, it’s new and more active users in existing ones ;)

So, I am asking for your opinion: what do you think would be best if I was to spend more of my time posting in that community?

  1. Let the community stay apparently unmoderated, and keep posting new content as any other member can do (if that needs to be said, I have zero ego-related issue in being or not being ‘promoted’ moderator, or whatever) and keep my fingers crossed that no troll comes in to poop on the table. As a side-note I would not mind be able to refresh its look. Obviously, that is not essential.
  2. Still keep my fingers crossed, hoping that someday, maybe, someone from your instance may decide that it’s worth their time to moderate/admin it and request to take hold of it?
  3. Create a new community from scratch, on my own instance, and invite members of this one to join me there, by posting a message?
  4. Create an account on your instance, so I would be allowed to take charge of it if that was something you would agree is a good idea?

Frankly, I am not sure I want to create a new account just for that. I quite like what you’re doing here but I also have no issue with my present instance, quite the contrary. But I may seriously consider doing it if you have reasons to think that would be better/smarter.

I hope this makes sense.

If you have any questions I’ll do my best to answer them. I am also all ears if you have any suggestion.

Thanks

  • [email protected]MA
    2·
    6 days ago

    It’s absolutely fine for you to become a remote mod.
    There’s a few caveats about reports, but it’s fine.
    Us admins are also included in any reports on SJW communities and obvious trolls or spam is already on the radar.

    I can’t transfer it to you as an owner but you can certainly be mod.

    • Libb@jlai.luOP
      1·
      6 days ago

      I forgot to ask: being mod would allow me to do some cleaning in the old existing posts too?

      I mean, the creator posted many threads without any comments and, well, I don’t know but I think it doesn’t make for a great first impression to see so many posts without any comment, despite being over a year old. Maybe I’m wrong there? I don’t think they should be deleted, but may regrouped in a smaller number of posts?

      Any impression I’m approx 100% clueless on those questions would be correct. Alas.

      • [email protected]MA
        1·
        6 days ago

        For sure, clean stuff up as you see fit.
        I mean there’s still 1 year stale posts that are pinned which doesn’t exactly scream “active” to newcomers.
        Fais comme chez vous!

    • Libb@jlai.luOP
      1·
      6 days ago

      Thx a lot for your reply.

      I’m really not sure I want to be anything more than a contributor, but I also don’t see much volunteers to moderate the community if it was ever needed to do some cleaning in whats posted.

      Since I have not heard back from the admin/creator of the community so far (over a week), what would be the procedure I would need to follow in order to get that shiny sheri, I mean, moderator badge if I wanted to request it?

      • [email protected]MA
        1·
        6 days ago

        Like I said, admins are defacto moderators for every community, so don’t worry too much about it. The previous mod hasn’t logged in in forever and I’ve already made you moderator for now.

        Then again, no pressure, you do whatever with that and if you choose to back out at any time, it’s totally fine.
        Basically you now have a few more options to pin/unpin and remove things as you see fit.
        Otherwise it should be pretty much business as usual.

        • Libb@jlai.luOP
          2·
          6 days ago

          Like I said, admins are defacto moderators for every community, so don’t worry too much about it. The previous mod hasn’t logged in in forever and I’ve already made you moderator for now.

          Well, thank you! That said, I must confess I’m a little bit disappointed as I hoped I would also get a six shooter, with that sheriff badge :p

          More seriously, a big thx too for having unpinned the previously pinned posts. Like you noticed, they were indeed looking like a sore spot and were not making the most welcoming first impression.

          Otherwise it should be pretty much business as usual.

          That’s what I imagine, seeing how slowly things are moving around there and how niche the community is, I don’t imagine we risk any massive troll invasion (fingers crossed, all twenty of them).

  • CheradenineEnglish
    5·
    9 days ago

    I’m almost positive that you can become a mod even if it isn’t on your instance. As I understand it, it can be harder to mod due to federation issues though.

    I’m sure you will hear back from someone more knowledgeable though.

    • Libb@jlai.luOP
      2·
      9 days ago

      Thx for your feedback.

      I’m almost positive that you can become a mod even if it isn’t on your instance.

      That would be a fine compromise, even though I would probably not pick me as a mod if there was any alternative :p

      it can be harder to mod due to federation issues though.

      Not sure to understand that, but that shouldn’t come as a surprise since I’ve no expertise on the internals of Lemmy.

      • Draconic NEO
        1·
        8 days ago

        Not sure to understand that, but that shouldn’t come as a surprise since I’ve no expertise on the internals of Lemmy.

        Sometimes mod actions can take a bit longer to federate, and if a user is banned from your instance but not the one the community is hosted on, you won’t be able to see or action their posts or comments from your account there.

    • Draconic NEO
      1·
      8 days ago

      I’m almost positive that you can become a mod even if it isn’t on your instance. As I understand it, it can be harder to mod due to federation issues though.

      The biggest compromise is that someone from this instance will have to stay behind in the community since they can’t transfer ownership of a local community to a remote user. That’s what I heard from @[email protected] when it comes to community creation for remote users. I’d assume it works very similar when it comes to community transfers.