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    … that make it more user-friendly and whatnot, but I don’t understand how you can just casually alter someone else’s work. It’s the same as looking at an illustration and going, “It sucked so I fixed it for you.”

    So let me come up with another analogy:

    I bought a Japanese chef knife, love the craftmanship on it, but need to sharpen it every know an then. Also the handle came off in the dishwasher, so I 3D printed one with Kirby on it.

    Also, the analogy does not apply to an undamaged painting. A painting that can be viewed cannot be inproved function wise. Although I am all for derivate work of that painting. For exmple in another medium.

    Like this 3D / VR painting based on Van Gogh: https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/van-gogh-d828cf07eacd4f14bb48576731ec7833

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    6 hours ago

    Thinking games are infallible and getting angry over having the option of installing them is pretty wild.

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        It took me skyrim and running through a techno hello kitty cave as super Mario wielding a lightsaber* to realize that modding is actually cool and that I hate that I can’t easily mod my console games.

        Tap for spoiler

        *I actually just installed a lot of sex mods

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    I love ALTTPR (link to the past randomizer) and my wife is amazed that people would upload themselves playing it because it alters the author’s work (even though it just removes custscenes and moves around items and screen transitions, basically). People have apparently gotten in trouble for streaming it in Japan on monetized channels. As someone who lives in Japan, it’s why I don’t upload it even on something not monetized. I own a physical copy of the game as well.

    Most Japanese see it this way which, to me, is really weird when all kinds of grey-market anime and managa stuff has a blind eye turned toward it.

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      Using established characters in your own works has long been accepted in Japan, especially for smaller doujin works, and that’s awesome. But the analogy between that and modding just isn’t the same.

      If we apply the ‘modding’ analogy to manga, that would basically be taking someone else’s published work, applying white-out on half the frames, drawing in partial new contents of your own, and then republishing it. That would be incredibly disrespectful of the author to use not only their character, but their exact art in such a way. Very different from creating a whole new derivative work.

      I’m personally very in-favour of modding, but I can understand why the Japanese in particular, when seen through that lens, do not like it.

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        Not all modding goes that far, but I do think you put well how many see it. I should also note that things like ALTTPR do not make money and are free for any to download and use with their own ROM (i.e. require that you own the game yourself). The are simply meant to add replayability and variety.

        Re-arranging the items, varying the power/defense of enemies, etc. doesn’t seem to fit that case very well to me. There are, of course, mods that do a lot more than those are definitely more akin to what you wrote.

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      yeah fan manga is popular and theres fucktons of authors who started their career that way

      someone def has been spreading bad press about “those dirty modders and hackers” being the source of all video gaming evil

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    I almost struggle to believe that Japanese gamers aren’t down with modding. Nintendo fans maybe. As aside where are all the Japanese posters to be like “wtf is this guy on about”. Every other day I get to giggle at German memes I don’t even understand; but I only see Japanese comments on stuff like YouTube. Maybe they got weirded out by English speakers since the days of image boards, which is fair enough tbh.

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      A lot aren’t going to have a huge opinion because easily-modded games aren’t a thing due to platform. PC gaming was always a very niche hobby here with most people not owning PCs. That has somewhat started to change recently, but that basically left other platforms where mods were either available (for free or paid) from the publisher or very difficult to go about at all as compared to modding common games on PC.

      Based on my incredibly non-scientific “watching some stuff on youtube over the years” method, my money would be on Minecraft turning things around a bit as I did see Japanese creators playing a lot of modded minecraft on youtube.

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      Tbh this is first time I learned japanese being divided over mods. As stated on the written article, Capcom and Square Enix on Final Fantasy are those that “worried” by mods because they deem some stuff are too “over to the top”.

      On Assetto Corsa for example Japanese players embrace modding because it is one of the only way to fully experience driving over real course like The infamous Shuto Expressway network that back in the day used for street racing.

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      The article explains it well. At least some of them see it as defacing a work of art, which I think it would be fair if games were unique pieces and not mass produced - it would piss me off if someone drew a mustache on the Mona Lisa in the Louvre but if you want to do it on your mass printed Mona Lisa copy, be my guest.