Question for the Americans. The Supreme Court has ruled that presidents enjoy automatic immunity for anything they do as part of their official duties (e.g., arrest or kill people). Can he use this to forgive student loans? Like couldn’t he just say “I almost fell down the stairs exiting Air Force One yesterday, and the only way I could save myself was by violently flailing my arms in search of the railing while also forgiving student loans”?
Unfortunately, no. Immunity means that Biden could, theoretically, personally murder every judge who stopped student loan forgiveness, but not that he could give student loan forgiveness the force of law.
If you’ll notice, this is extremely useful for crooked cunts like Trump, and borderline useless for every other variety of politician, including imaginationless narrowed-sighted milquetoast moderates like Biden.
No, all the supreme court said was: “You can’t do anything illegal, but if you do, you won’t get in trouble for it.”
So the president still have to find those “yes-men” in the government to do the deed.
He can say: “All student loans are now void. BURN ALL THE RECORDS”
The people that run those departments that administers the student loans would be like: “Um… so do we burn these records or what?” and if even one copy of those records survive, its pointless.
Same with trying to kill the supreme court, doesn’t matter. I doubt anyone is obeying those orders. Joe can have a meeting with the justices and then shoot them himself, and he might ne immume. But is that gonna matter? Jan 20 comes and republicans pack the court with even more Magats.
Trying to kill trump doesnt work, he got like so many bodyguards both private and SS, and also if he dies, vance would just take over, or mike johnson, or pres pro tem of senate, like the line of succession is all republicans.
Contrary to what other people will tell you, yes he could. For example, he could simply order all loan records destroyed and all loan enforcement stopped. He doesn’t even need that Court ruling to do that, the Executive branch opts to not enforce laws all the time. Simply stop the government from doing anything about student loans. In fact, he (his administration) has done some of this–see the note on this page:
On March 9, 2022, the U.S. Department of Education asked the U.S. Department of Justice to request a pause of any active bankruptcy case if the borrower wishes.
Right now, student loans are a huge problem in the US because (unlike other debts) you cannot (easily) get out of student loans through bankruptcy and young people are getting saddled with monstrous amounts of debt that they aren’t entirely consenting to, so rather than fix that in any way the “fix” was to simply force students to repay the loans regardless.
At the same time: no, he could not.
The fact of the matter is the case would eventually end up before the Supreme Court who would simply find against Biden. Nothing Biden does would be considered legal, everything Trump does would be considered legal. Literally the only way out of this is to remove the Justices who have no regard for the law.
This immunity ruling is a loaded gun that the Supreme Court dropped on the desk of the President. If the Biden does anything with it, the Supreme Court is going to say “no that’s illegal, you can’t do that!” Using this immunity ruling to remove them would be a good option, but Biden has no intent of ever doing that and so the loaded gun is still sitting on the desk for when Trump takes office. Whenever Trump does anything, the Supreme Court is going to simply say “immunity”.
Question for the Americans. The Supreme Court has ruled that presidents enjoy automatic immunity for anything they do as part of their official duties (e.g., arrest or kill people). Can he use this to forgive student loans? Like couldn’t he just say “I almost fell down the stairs exiting Air Force One yesterday, and the only way I could save myself was by violently flailing my arms in search of the railing while also forgiving student loans”?
Unfortunately, no. Immunity means that Biden could, theoretically, personally murder every judge who stopped student loan forgiveness, but not that he could give student loan forgiveness the force of law.
If you’ll notice, this is extremely useful for crooked cunts like Trump, and borderline useless for every other variety of politician, including imaginationless narrowed-sighted milquetoast moderates like Biden.
No, all the supreme court said was: “You can’t do anything illegal, but if you do, you won’t get in trouble for it.”
So the president still have to find those “yes-men” in the government to do the deed.
He can say: “All student loans are now void. BURN ALL THE RECORDS”
The people that run those departments that administers the student loans would be like: “Um… so do we burn these records or what?” and if even one copy of those records survive, its pointless.
Same with trying to kill the supreme court, doesn’t matter. I doubt anyone is obeying those orders. Joe can have a meeting with the justices and then shoot them himself, and he might ne immume. But is that gonna matter? Jan 20 comes and republicans pack the court with even more Magats.
Trying to kill trump doesnt work, he got like so many bodyguards both private and SS, and also if he dies, vance would just take over, or mike johnson, or pres pro tem of senate, like the line of succession is all republicans.
Its over.
AI means the president is immune. Not his orders and actions. The courts can sometimes stop those.
Contrary to what other people will tell you, yes he could. For example, he could simply order all loan records destroyed and all loan enforcement stopped. He doesn’t even need that Court ruling to do that, the Executive branch opts to not enforce laws all the time. Simply stop the government from doing anything about student loans. In fact, he (his administration) has done some of this–see the note on this page:
Right now, student loans are a huge problem in the US because (unlike other debts) you cannot (easily) get out of student loans through bankruptcy and young people are getting saddled with monstrous amounts of debt that they aren’t entirely consenting to, so rather than fix that in any way the “fix” was to simply force students to repay the loans regardless.
At the same time: no, he could not.
The fact of the matter is the case would eventually end up before the Supreme Court who would simply find against Biden. Nothing Biden does would be considered legal, everything Trump does would be considered legal. Literally the only way out of this is to remove the Justices who have no regard for the law.
This immunity ruling is a loaded gun that the Supreme Court dropped on the desk of the President. If the Biden does anything with it, the Supreme Court is going to say “no that’s illegal, you can’t do that!” Using this immunity ruling to remove them would be a good option, but Biden has no intent of ever doing that and so the loaded gun is still sitting on the desk for when Trump takes office. Whenever Trump does anything, the Supreme Court is going to simply say “immunity”.