• Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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    4 days ago

    One thing is that a company does work, gets a fair payment from that, and if you do a lot of work, you get a lot of payment

    A whole other subject is when you squeeze every last dejt out of the people you say you work for

    A completely different subject is when your company’s policies are so bad that you cause untold suffering and literally thousands of preventable deaths.

    We shouldn’t need not want a vigilante shooter, these people (CEO’s of these kinds of companies) should all be in jail for life.

    I’m a CTO at a small medical supplier company and I work hard to make sure we’re ethical. I can honestly claim were ethnical. We’re a bunch of people trying to make life easier for others, for doctors and patients. None of us are rich, but we are passionate and we honestly want to grow the company not by squeezing every cent out of our customers, we grow by just making sure we’re the best and fairest. It is very possible to be c level and to be ethical, but it has to be a choice.

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      if you do a lot of work, you get a lot of payment

      Thats just not how the world works I’m afraid. At all.

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        4 days ago

        Finally, a genuine and intelligent question. Thanks for that, so far I just got idiots responding

        Private, of course.

        When having a publicly traded company, it’s almost impossible to be ethical. Publicly traded companies should be outlawed. Investments here and there are fine, but the current system as-is is indeed fucked up

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          Yup, that’s where I was heading with that. Its weird how hard it is to be ethical and not get your ass sued for shareholder value issues in a public company.

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      I’m a CTO at a small medical supplier company and I work hard to make sure we’re ethical.

      Good for you, tell me, what is the average wage/compensation for your company? What is the ratio of CEO pay to worker pay?

      Do you know those numbers off the top of your head? Does anyone but the CFO know? If you don’t know those numbers off the top of your head, you aren’t really trying your best to be ethical.

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        4 days ago

        Oh fuck your attitude already.

        Sorry but you have a rotten attitude. Nothing is enough, people trying suck anyway, and no true Scotsman!

        Here: I have a relatively high salary, it’s give or take a little over twice the country’s average. My salary is about twice as high as the lowest salary at the company. The lowest salary at the company is slightly below he country’s average. I’m also the first to enter, the last to leave, and I work on the weekends as well to try and give my best to everyone. Not bragging, it is what it is. I also live in a < 500sqft apartment with my wife, and I’m totally happy with it, we don’t need more. I’m not rich, I’m upper middle class at best.

        I don’t know the salaries of the other C levels, but I know how they live and what they drive and where they spend their vacations; Their salaries are comparable to mine. I got my salary because of the shit tonne I give tonhe company, same goes for the other C levels.

        Your attitude of " everyone who has more than me is evil" is shit and is also part of the reason why things are as bad as they are. Goes for all people who think that any company automatically is evil because some companies are. There are LOADS of people who just work hard for what they have and who really try to make sure other have it good too.

        You don’t get to judge me, so take your damned attitude and fuck off until you can behave normal

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      4 days ago

      I’m sorry but you’re not ethical. I’m sure you’re doing your best but you’re a small fish in a very unethical ocean. It’s not your fault, you’re just another cog in the machine.

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        Are you seeing what you’re writing there?

        I’m unethical because I’m a cog in a machine?

        So in other words, we’re all evil, you are evil, maybe we should all kill ourselves and get it over with because why even bother trying, rite?

        Fuck your attitude

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          I’m getting REALLY tired of reading “fuck your attitude” multiple times in your comments, chief. You need to correct that language or you need to leave-- or more preferably get tossed out on your arse.

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            How about you adjust your attitude instead? Because it’s horrible.

            I prefer bad language over bad actions. I may talk like a sailor but at least i do the right thing. Maybe you should try that too