• Ookami38
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      9 days ago

      That’s really more a cult than a religion. As much as “hahah all religions are cults LoL”, there is a distinct difference between them.

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        9 days ago

        Drag isn’t a sociologist, but drag is pretty sure the set of cults is contained within the set of religions.

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          9 days ago

          Right. All cults are, ostensibly, religions. That doesn’t mean that it works in the other way. Not all religions are cults.

          • Dragon Rider (drag)@lemmy.nz
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            9 days ago

            Right, so if Trumpism is a cult, it must be a religion. And it’s a religion that isn’t concerned with the creation of the universe, the afterlife, or how to live well. So your definition of religion based on it answering unknowns can’t be right.

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              There’s a reason I said “ostensibly”. Cults co-opt the religious umbrella in order to manipulate. They rely on the same kinds of psychology that religions do, often touch on the same kinds of topics. Trumpism is more a cult of personality than a proper religious cult.

              Either way, to equate any kind of spiritually and religion with one of the most obvious examples of someone heading a cult is at BEST disingenuous. I’m not here to talk about cults. Cults suck, they’re the opposite of what I described earlier. Intensely external, entirely about control.

              • Dragon Rider (drag)@lemmy.nz
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                9 days ago

                Trumpism definitely has the worship and belief in the supernatural, insofar as most religions do. Drag thinks it’s a religion.

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                  9 days ago

                  That’s fine. Drag can believe it to be a religion. Still not one relevant at all to the views I stated above.

                  • Dragon Rider (drag)@lemmy.nz
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                    9 days ago

                    Okay well since we couldn’t agree on a definition that encompasses all religions, drag is going to continue believing there’s no such thing as religion.