• Aqarius@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Religion isn’t religion isn’t religion. Iran is Shia, “moderate rebels” are by and large Sunni.

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      Again, the Ba’ath party is 100% secular. Secularism is a cornerstone of their party. It has nothing to do with Sunni and Shi’a here, it has to do with a theocratic regime in a partnership with exactly the opposite.

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        3 days ago

        …Yes, the Ba’ath party is 100% secular, and Tehran would rather deal with secularists than with heretics.

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            No, secularists are nonbelievers, possibly apostates. A heretic believes in the same religion as you do, just the wrong kind of it.

                • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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                  3 days ago

                  Where is the contradiction? Do you think a belief contrary to religious doctrine has to be religious?

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                    Yes, cause that’s what the dictionary means: belief contrary to the doctrine of the religious system the belief is embedded in.

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                On the contrary, from Wikipedia:

                Heresy is any belief or theory that is strongly at variance with established beliefs or customs, particularly the accepted beliefs or religious law of a religious organization.[1][2] A heretic is a proponent of heresy.[1]

                Heresy is distinct from apostasy, which is the explicit renunciation of one’s religion, principles, or cause;

                Atheism is not heresy. A heretic is a type of believer. You can argue you meant the colloquial usage as “divergent thought”, but that’s not the usage I used.

                Either way, the point stands: not all Islam is the same thing, and the Tehran regime quite clearly has an easier time stomaching cooperation with secularists than with Sunnis.

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                  3 days ago

                  Stop what… breathing? I will in four years. And you and all the other people who hate me can get together and throw a big party.