They took down the gofundme. He’s got a bit of an online footprint that’s being actively picked over. Apparently, he got picked up in Pennsylvania, for “being weird”, presumably from staying awake most of the last week. . So far he has not said anything. Whatever manifesto they got him with has not made the rounds, and frankly I’m not overly enthused about getting ahold of it, but yeah., If I have an excess of time and money in the coming seasons . We’ll be hearing from him and helping Mr. Mangione out.
Like I said, extensive online footprint that is being picked over as we speak. I saw a LinkedIn profile that has since been deleted, but of course it was screenshot. People disappear in a lot of the important ways when they go to prison, but we’ll do what we can.
Chronic pain can make people do things they normally wouldn’t do
Back pain is a killer.
We don’t have to call everybody who works with code a “tech bro”. He seems like a perfectly normal and relatable person.
But I’ve been saying that and being downvoted for it for years.
Human interaction is important. One of the problems with capitalism is the commodification of that human interaction (or what that human interaction used to provide for free). Really only the last point diverges, but it is somewhat related in that a shared set of activities can bring forth positive human interactions (e.g. progressive movements have come up or gained momentum from church gatherings, see the civil rights movement in the US).
Holy shit it’s the guy that has the username I wanted.
Hello fellow hark! As someone who hasn’t been able to obtain the name elsewhere, I feel your pain.
He’s spitting facts though
You can take my japan real hole from my cold dead hands
You win, I don’t wanna get anywhere near your cold dead hole.
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I’ve very suspicious of how all this info about him is being brought to me.
…and placed at your feet?
What client are you using, that sounds surreal.
I’m not sure what you’re getting at. I’m referring to how he’s being presented as a techbro and not a tech worker or how I learned he came from a rich family before I learned he has chronic back pain.
I have that user marked as “dumbass troll”, I wouldnt recommend engaging with them.
I’m not engaging anymore. I thought I had spelled a word wrong or something at first.
…This account, anyway.
lel anyone that challenges me is a troll glad I’m on Lemmy
Responded like a true troll.
If you don’t like the news, no one’s forcing it on you.
People on Lemmy have shit reading comprehension.
If anything it sounded like he wanted to be a game dev and gave up on it (probably because it actually kind of sucks as a cog in a AAA company) and that sounds like a ton of people I know.
The serious back injury would explain the hard turn his life made.
Also, if you really want to hate the insurance companies, it’s easy: get surgery in America. I thought his rage was from a friend who wasnt rich enough for cancer treatments; here it’s a bad skiing accident and the years of bill negotiation that pushed him over the edge.
But that could be me in the same situation. I have a back injury that is never going to improve, but its progress is slowed by proper care and lots of help. A bad turn if I was American and even my good tech job wouldn’t be enough. At-will state and I’m laid-off like that, no job means no coverage, no coverage means I sell my everything for anything. Ich bin copaybacker.
Maybe you relate to people who went to a $40k/year private high school. I certainly don’t. I even interned as a math teacher at such a school.
Try getting kids to study algebra when they just missed 2 months of school on a vacation with their parents backpacking through Europe.
I taught school in a correctional facility for youth. I was the first person on either side of my family to get a college degree. I was given chicken bouillon as a kid when I was hungry and we didn’t have food and wore hand me downs.
So no. Fuck off with your assumptions.
Family supposedly owns a country club. Prominent baltimore family. If that is so, that is definitely up there in the capitalist class and not working class. Still was rooting for him. Just would have been alot cooler if was a working class guy.
If you look at history a lot of revolutions start with someone pretty close to or even part of the bourgeoisie.
Class traitors from the owner class are welcomed with open arms. This only proves that anyone can do something good in the world.
Working class people can’t get time off work to do their assassinations. If they could the world would be a better place.
Someone higher up the ladder actually cared about us down below. Empathy is a hell of a drug. “If it’s this bad for me it must be even worse for others.”
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You only say he is relatable because he wanted to kill a rich guy who profited by being terrible.
He’s relatable because, aside from going to fancy schools, his life experiences are very similar to mine.
I worked in Tech Startups, not in the Valley but in London UK, and the Tech Bros aren’t the Techies, they’re the Founders and nowadays (unlike back in the 90s when I also was in the Industry) Founders are generally not Techies but rather people from a salesmanship-heavy background (so Finance types, Marketing types and so on).
Blaming Techies for the shit from Tech Bros is just profound ignorance, since the mindset that make a person good at coding (such as attention to detail and favoring precisision and clarity) are the very opposite of the Tech Bro behaviour (promising the impossible, weaving fantastic stories about Tech and making broad and vague claims about how Society works and what Tech can do).
I worked in tech for decades. We’re not all ‘tech bros’, bro. Most people I worked with are entirely normal.
Yeah! Like, no doubt there is at least something else relatable about him.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend
Nope. He still didn’t do it. I don’t care what links I have shoved in my face. This guy didn’t do it.
If he didn’t. He is fixing to be even more wealthy. Like its some kind of big PR move and he already has a screenplay ready to sell.
I want to live in an America where this guy specifically goes free and then later gets rich off of a book titled something like “If I Did It, This Was Why”
🤔
Side note, The Back Mechanic really helped me.
Years of chiropractic didn’t fix shit. Couple weeks following that book? Huge improvement.
The guy who invented chiropracty literally claims that an alien angel taught it to him.
don’t forget the homeopathy bullshit
That explains the character in Jacob’s ladder
Really good, spooky ass movie.
10/10
Fantastic psychological experience I don’t get enough of. Something not overtly scary but at the same time you know something is going south the deeper you go.
You want a quality physiotherapist not a chiropractor. This is what much of the rest of the world does without marketing.
Starting lifting weights fixed all my back issues. I didn’t have anything major going on and if you do you should definitely see a professional but if you’re just having aches and pains it could be that you just need to work your body more.
Finally someone making sense in comments
Thats awesome!
Unfortunately I’m not suprised chiropracics didn’t help, it’s rooted in complete bunk pseudoscience, which is frustrating when they take money from people who really need help with chronic pain or other ailments
I’m really glad you were able to find your solution, back issues are miserable
Anecdotal, but I know someone who has back problems and goes to a back quacker once a week and it does help him.
Would I go to one? Probably not, I would rather have someone walk on my back to pop those hard to crack spots, like the upper back, instead of risk internal decapitation because some jackass got a certificate online.
Going to get weekly adjustments isn’t a solution, it’s somebody taking your money.
His insurance pays for it and the alternative is major surgery that is expensive that will likely result in needing another surgery to fuse a few vertebrae which will make his job harder and likely result in him still having back pain. So the “solution” will be a net negative.
My understanding is that some chiropractors have adapted to methods that will actually help people and reconciled chiropractics with what they’ve found works, but the theory behind chiropractics is still fundamentally pseudo science. Like if you go look it up it’s genuinely ridiculous and makes no sense.
If someone is debating going to a chiropractor they’d almost certainly be at least as well served by going to a physical therapist instead.
That being said, the financial experience and experience of being cared for might be a meaningful difference between the two, I’m not sure. My impression is that a lot of pseudoscientific medical interventions have draw because they often treat people like human beings in a way that our medical system is dystinctly bad at.
Ultimately, I’m glad your friend is getting what they need, regardless of where they’re getting it :) people deserve access to meaningful help with the problems affecting their lives
I’ve had friends suggest a chiropractor when I slipped a disc in my neck around 2010. I had doctors suggest a physical therapist for the same issue.
The doctors told me to go outside and look up and to the right to find the physical therapy office. Well, I literally couldn’t look neither up nor to the right. Like they gave a shit, they couldn’t even be bothered to take me to the elevator to the physical therapy department!
I said fuck all that shit and drove back home, and suffered for another 5 weeks or so, until I finally got a sense of my own pains to just take care of it myself.
I ended up rolling my pillow up tighter than a Cuban cigar and laying it strategically under my neck while I slept, to induce something of a homemade ‘traction’ plus a somewhat comfortable curve on my neck, to relax the slipped disc.
And sure enough it actually worked! By the next day, I woke up and my pinched nerve was gone! My neck muscles were still sore though, so I took it real easy for the next week or so.
TL;DR - They don’t give a shit about you, unless you can make it rain money. And speaking of money, I’ll never pay a medical bill where doctors neglected me or caused me more harm.
I ain’t about to condone what the dude did, whether it’s actually him or not, but I’m not mad about it either. Fuckem.
You couldnt figure out how to get on an elevator without an escort but you were able to get to your car and drive home?
They litetally escorted me out of the hospital, the elevators were restricted to authorized personnel and accepted patients.
They looked at my X-rays and claimed they didn’t see anything wrong (except likely the fact I didn’t have insurance), so they didn’t admit me as a formal accepted patient.
Healthcare in the USA for ya…
At least I managed to slip that damn disc back in place on my own, it only rarely mildly bothers me when it gets cold or happen to sleep wrong or something.
Edit: Driving was no problem, I had practically no problem looking side to side, I just couldn’t look up, or hardly sleep unless I was sitting up in a recliner.
Look for the chiros that are trained as physios. Mine is American where the regs are looser, but he’s trained physio first so he’s fantastic on the exercises and maintenance regime. I’m going on 33 years from a slip n fall that changed my life during a very dramatic few years, and motion means everything.
It’s fun how I tell a true story and offer advice, and those are the ones brigaded to hell.
I’m happy you found a provider that’s giving you the help you need!
As always the real pro tip is in the comments.
Wow. She had enough money to live in a million dollar house, send her kids to expensive prep schools but that kind of money is nothing in the face of severe medical expenses in the US of A. It’s worth remembering that if you don’t have 10’s of millions or really hundreds of millions of dollars, you’re a bad medical situation away from physical, mental and financial ruin.
When I was in America for a few years, what made me leave was the realization that a bad car accident would ruin me financially instead of in my home country where I got an arm cast before they knew my health number.
So I went home. Fuck that.
Same here. Now I watch as some people enthusiastically leave for the US. I tell them, “you don’t know yet, you don’t get it” but they think it’ll be different for them. So good luck!
I’m glad they took him alive, and that the jury will get to hear/read this.
Seriously. Dude is traumatized by what happened to his mother.
Holy fuck. Luigi Mangione is a hero. May he live to find a cure for his pain, and may his name inspire us to take action.
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Christ… What a grim read. :(
Can we stop posting this? Likely fake. It has been circulated as the manifesto, but is roughly 1500 words despite authorities stating the real one is handwritten and 262 words.
Also if you look at snapshot history, there are only any from today and yesterday.
It rings true to me and I have not seen it debunked.
Just because he had something written on his person doesn’t mean he wouldn’t post more elsewhere. He scheduled Youtube videos to come out, too.
real one just hit the press and has been confirmed by authorities https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/luigis-manifesto
seen others saying his mother is alive and well
You should make this a top level reply considering OP specifically talks about it not yet being available.
Just finished reading it and the beliefs it espouses don’t seem consistent with what we’ve uncovered so far about his social media activity. That manifesto reads like it was written by an anarchist, and everything else on Luigi’s social media suggests he was more of a libertarian techbro.
Just feel the need to remind everyone that this is unverified and Ken Klippensten on Bluesky is saying he does think it’s real
Soon you are only allowed to buy an AR15 provided that you are in perfect health.
Well, it all makes too much sense now.
Really? This is just the story I thought everyone was expecting?
There were rumours being spread that he’s insane.
It all seems very logical to me.I’d buy “disturbed” but not “insane.” dude was too effective anbassassin to be “insane.” I’m convinced he acted upon a genuine grievance.
Him being insane is the only way this doesn’t spread. How convenient.
It’s the system that is insane. The system that rewards the most immoral, unethical, criminal, and corrupt with wealth and power. The system that enables a psychopathic plutocracy.
And that’s why he’s not crazy
