• Katana314@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    I feel like wayyy too many engineer minds lean back on “too vague” without understanding how many judgment calls judges make in cases every day. It’s not uncommon for them to have to decide what someone’s intent or knowledge was when taking a certain action.

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      6 days ago

      Software engineer here. I find the petition to be very specific, and totally feasible.

      Anyway, this isn’t a true referendum where its text would become immediate law as soon as it passes. It’s a petition that would be presented to legislators who would write the actual law. The petition doesn’t need to be written in legalese.

      (Also: if the customer paid them even one cent, then they DO owe the customer something. Also: They should be forced to release the server software when they shut down the servers.)

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        It’s a petition that would be presented to legislators who would write the actual law.

        Oh-ho-ho! It’s about to get better: they can instead say, that existing laws cover this. Which will have even greater impact.

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      6 days ago

      That’s someone who shouldn’t be a judge, that’s what a jury or maybe even mediators would be for. A judge is black and white, and shouldn’t judge on anything they aren’t 100% educated on.

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          6 days ago

          Just because the USA broken system is that way doesn’t mean it’s the norm, nor should it be how it’s actually done.

          How can you be an impartial judge on something you don’t know anything about? They need to know the law, the relevant materials, and comprehend it.

          So yea, they NEED to be knowledgeable, and if they are using “personal interpretations” instead of established, they aren’t fit to be a judge.

          Just because this is allowed by your corrupt system doesn’t make it okay to allow dude.

          It’s literally in the word “impartial” means. OP is saying they want biased judges who judge with their emotions instead of objectively.

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            You’re arguing against things nobody brought up. Nobody said judges shouldn’t be impartial or knowledgeable. It’s also not about ”personal interpretation“.

            But judging is all but black and white. A lot of laws have wiggle room to varying degrees, and for a reason. Because no two cases are identical and intents and knowledge have to be able to be taken into account. That’s why laws are usually a little vague.
            For example, a sentence for assault and battery has a degree of freedom (when the suspect is found guilty), the punishment can vary from a fine (of varying hights) to a time in prison (from a few months to some years).

            Just because the USA broken system

            Stop making everything about that shithole of a country. Stop Killing Games isa european initiative towards EU laws ffs.

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            5 days ago

            Just because the USA broken system is that way doesn’t mean it’s the norm, nor should it be how it’s actually done.

            Dude, I know you are upset with your legal system. Who wouldn’t? But we are discussing EU here.