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  • sylver_dragon@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    So, Free Speech, so long as it’s speech the government is OK with. Yup, that seems to square perfectly with the First Amendment, no contradictions there. /s

    Honestly, I see the whole line of reasoning “we make speech free by restricting speech” as complete bullshit. Claiming that a prior restraint on speech increases freedom requires some amazing mental gymnastics. This doesn’t mean that ByteDance shouldn’t be forced to divest from TikTok. It seems completely reasonable to look at TikTok and realize that it is being used as an arm of the PRC for propaganda, influence and data collection. Based on that realization the Federal Government has a valid, compelling interest in limiting the reach of ByteDance. And a law forcing the divestiture of TikTok by ByteDance is limited in scope and works to resolve the issue, without overly burdening Free Speech.

    But, claiming that setting the Government makes speech freer by restricting speech is just Orwellian Double Speak.

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        6 days ago

        directly proportional to the amount of money representing the speech in question

  • Carrolade@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    What, you mean an app engineered to turn information into an addictive drug that tries to keep users hooked regardless of whether that is any good for them or not, in the interest of maximized revenues, might not be an exercise of genuinely “free” speech?

    Huh, weird.

    • disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world
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      6 days ago

      Yes, but that describes all social media with engagement algorithms.

      The only discernible difference between TikTok and Reels is foreign ownership, and the article is truncated before it substantiates its claim about the ban protecting free speech.

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        6 days ago

        The shorts format specifically is extra dangerous, it’s sort of the fentanyl to youtube’s heroin. Their specific algorithm is also unusually effective.

        It’s true that any other social media that successfully copies tiktok’s methods would become just as bad from a health perspective.

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    6 days ago

    Foreign governments don’t have a first-amendment right to manipulate American public opinion, but Americans have a first-amendment right to consume foreign propaganda. The fact that TikTok is operated by a Chinese company isn’t a secret, and neither is the fact that the Chinese government has a great deal of influence over Chinese companies and can use that influence to further goals that it perceives as contrary to US interests. Americans who choose to use TikTok anyway have the right to make that choice, because “I don’t care that my social media is being manipulated by a hostile foreign power” is an ideology which, while perhaps foolish, is still in the same category as any other political ideology.

    Banning the publication of the Communist Manifesto during the Red Scare would have been a first-amendment violation despite the (valid, IMO) argument that preventing communists from gaining control of the USA would, in the long term, protect free speech. So is banning TikTok.

  • Optional@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    “Free Speech” isn’t owned by TikTok. Ban away.

    Need to speek freely? Do so! Need TikTok to do it? HA.

  • mindbleach
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    6 days ago

    It’s not about any opinion in particular.

    It’s not about how that opinion is expressed, or to whom.

    This is a business. It’s owned by a foreign state. Other sites offered the same kind of platform before it, and plenty more offer it right now.