• enbyecho@lemmy.world
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    17 days ago

    Honestly? You don’t make any sense to me. Hopefully you make sense to you.

    It sounds like you’ve chosen to double down on homophobia.

    I’m gay. If a black person uses the N word in a joke are you as presumably Not A Black Person going to instantly assume they are racist? Or will you stop to ask why?

    I’m not saying a black person can’t be racist or a gay person can’t be offensive to other people or even have latent homophobia. But as simplistic as it sounds that’s literally the basic argument here. Many straight people saying “hey thar that’s homophobic” and one gay person at least saying “nah, that’s funny” and being downvoted to hell.

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      17 days ago

      But as simplistic as it sounds that’s literally the basic argument here.

      The basic argument of this conversation, between the two of us, was that you claimed people were censoring you, and I pointed out that making observations or even judgement calls about what you said doesn’t prevent you from saying it. Absolutely no one is stopping you from saying whatever you want. I don’t think anyone even tried to. I sure didn’t.

      If you want to turn it into “well I’m gay so I can say homophobic things without judgement, like black people saying the n-word” you’ll have to do it alone because I have no interest in participating in that discussion.

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          17 days ago

          Calling people you don’t like gay as an insult isn’t homophobic?

          • enbyecho@lemmy.world
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            17 days ago

            Perhaps the words don’t mean what you think they mean.

            This is not calling them gay as an insult. If it were saying “they are so gay” meaning “they are so bad” then yes. But this is drawing parallels between their behavior and that of gay people in an ironical way in order to highlight their hypocrisy. And frankly to taunt them.

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              17 days ago

              So calling people gay in order to taunt them isn’t homophobic

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                17 days ago

                Either you are being disingenuous or you are just not very bright. Either way, have a nice day.

                • the_crotch
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                  17 days ago

                  I just don’t think “hurry durr they’re gay for each other” should be used as an insult, and that doing so is homophobic. Have fun on 4chan.