From remains an unabashed centrist who believes that economic growth, not the economic populism of Sanders or Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, is the answer. “It’s important the critical mass in the Democratic party show that it’s the party of opportunity, responsibility and community but not the party of the left,” he insists.

He also argues that the party should not be afraid to talk about law enforcement and developing a system of community policing rather than urging “defund the police”. Likewise it should embrace the idea of legal immigration and a border that is under control. From applauds governors who have made jobs available to people without college degrees.

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    Doesn’t mean it can’t change now. No, lemme rephrase that: It has to change or y’all are absolutely fucked.

    The way we do that is by voting for Democrats and telling other people to vote for Democrats.

    Bernie is independent. He’s not a democratic, yet he’s winning elections in Vermont without “splitting the vote”. That’s what I meant by having deposed them.

    Exactly. He is an independent who caucuses with the Democrats. He hasn’t deposed the Democrats, they are still here, in fact Bernie works with them. The goal is not to get rid of the Democratic Party, but to control it.

    For local office, and only two states doing it for state office. This doesn’t mean much for federal office, which is where you will see resistance from the DNC.

    My point is that the claim that

    DNC will absolutely not, never pass election reform

    is demonstrably false. Democrats have passed election reform which means they can pass it again at the federal level. Things that gets done at the federal level can find their root at the state level, such as gay marriage.

    Yeah, and they decided that was too much snd tried to go back to the right while thinking they’ll still get progressive votes,

    Because people didn’t vote for them.

    when progressives by your claim were supposed to have leverage.

    I do not claim anyone has leverage over political parties via voting. There is no fulcrum on the political spectrum. People who vote have power. People who do vote have given up their power.

    Biden also led the US’s support for Israel’s genocide, again when progressives were supposed to have “leverage”.

    Biden was following 70 years of US policy. To be clear, Biden is complicit in Israel’s genocide of Palestinians. But the idea that a US President would drop a long standing ally is not a serious one. Especially when taking into account that the ally is Israel and Biden is a life long zionist. Biden was undermining negotiations with Israel during the Obama administration.

    Biden is not representative of non-zionist Democrats. Unfortunately thanks to the useless strategy of non-voting we are going to see a lot more zionists in power in Congress for at least the next two to years. This will have devastating consequences for Palestine and the Middle East in general.

    Also again, there is no leverage. Only political power. There is no fulcrum on the political spectrum. Without something to pivot on there is no leverage. There is no reason why non-voters or third party voters would compulse any mainstream political party to do anything when there are voters that can be targeted.

    They’re shifting left one step and back three, as seen by Harris’s support for that idiotic border wall and democrats coopting Republican immigration policies.

    The Democrats take one step forward to the left, while the Republicans take three steps back to the right. The Democrats refusal to embrace any populist narrative or any narrative at all means they can never shape the discourse. All they can do is try to comprise on the issues laid out by the Republican’s narrative. The Democrats need to be co-opted by a socialist and progressive movement and then be given a populist narrative to win votes.