I recently (as in just now) bought a month of the Kagi Search engine to give it a whirl. THEN I heard they use Yandex which is Russian and well… Russia and Ukraine. Any truth to this?

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    8 days ago

    Like ~95% of the rest of the internet that uses cloud infrastructure.

    Google, AWS, or Azure

    What is your point?

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      8 days ago

      it’s not like they are the only providers. There’s plenty of other choice

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        8 days ago

        I’m someone who builds cloud infrastructure for a living. I only touch AWS (Amazon), but the same applies to Azure (Microsoft) and GCP (Google).

        Kagi is private. Saying that they “rely” on Google because they use GCP is akin to saying that the US Army relies on General Motors because they use Hummers. It’s just a provider. They’re renting virtual machines, compute power, storage, and network bandwidth nothing more. You can use GCP/Azure/AWS without your data ever being visible by GCP/Azure/AWS. It’s not because you use GCP that you have to use AdSense/Analytics/Fonts, etc. They are completely separate.

        Politicians would have a field day with all the cloud providers if using one thing forced you to use everything.

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            7 days ago

            So you’re saying it’s ok to trust those cloud providers

            What kind of trust are you referring to? I trust that they take great pains to protect their cloud customer’s data. CGP is not Google Search is not Google advertising.

            Do I trust them to do the right thing environmentally? No. Geopolitically? No. But let’s not get these all confused. They do support surveillance tech but surreptitiously mining their cloud customer’s data has the potential to sink their entire business overnight.

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        8 days ago

        Microsoft, Google and Amazon wouldn’t have cloud infrastructure businesses if they were snooping on clients.

        Educate yourself even a little bit before taking a stance like this.