Some communities there are literally calling for the annihilation of Ukraine

https://programming.dev/comment/1999097

edit: Since people are either willfully or otherwose are missing my point, this is a pro-russia, pro-fascist hate group, therefore we shouldn’t give them the platform to spread their shit. this is not about me seeing their community or then causing issues accross other communities, it’s about de-platforming fascists.

  • southsamurai
    246·
    1 year ago

    They’ve been stirring shit across lemmydom.

    But, they haven’t hit everywhere, nor have they hit everywhere equally.

    This means that instances where the defederation policy is reactive will not, and should not defederate until and unless users from there cause problems.

    Have you checked the federation/defederation policy for your instance? If not, you should. If it is a reactive policy, then it comes down to you deciding to stay and use the block feature to curate your feed, stay and attempt to change that policy (good luck), find other instances to use, or use apps with instance filtering features.

    It is my personal policy to not have a single account. I decentralize as a user. I recommend this to anyone and everyone in the fediverse. This makes it much easier to shift around as needed to avoid problematic things like this. If I don’t like the federation policy of a given instance leading to a bad actor instance causing trouble, I just don’t use that instance for a while, and eventually the disruptive place will get defederated for cause. Easy peasy.

    I strongly suggest using an app with instance blocking. Connect, sync, and summit all have it (though I’m not certain how bulletproof each is). This means that no matter where you go, the users from the problem instances are filtered out. This only becomes a problem if you moderate C/s with decent traffic. If that’s the case, it is usually wise to set up a different app without filters to do mod work from (currently there’s only sync and summit that have mod tools that I’m aware of).

    I’m less up to date on browser or PWA filtration options.

    But, be aware, defederation is meant to be the last choice in most instances. Defederating without a good reason defeats the purpose of federation. Many admins believe in that principle, so this kind of post may not amount to anything at all.

    I agree that hexbear is a problem. Because I’m decentralized as a user, I have seen the users from there stirring shit everywhere they target. And that is why they need attention as regards defederation, not having stupid opinions. We, as a general group of fediverse denizens, really need to be careful with calls for defederation solely on the basis of stupidity.

    • kameecoding@programming.devOP
      2316·
      1 year ago

      I feel like calling it “stupid opinions” is a bit of a downplay on what they are, which is in essence a far-right, pro russia (and hence pro fascism) echo chamber masquerading as leftists.

      I also don’t get your comment you are basically saying I can’t do anything about it, bar maybe creating this post which is exactly what I did, if this instance remains federated with hexbear I will just delete this account and make another one on an instance that’s less tolerant of these things

      • RadiumEnglish
        63·
        1 year ago

        To be fair I think hexbear is actually far left instead of far right but your other points still stand . They look remarkably similar

            • kameecoding@programming.devOP
              53·
              1 year ago

              I see hexbear is leaking.

              I assume by “lib” you mean neo-liberal US democrat types, which I am not, but I am sure you will guess my political views any day now.

              Edit: nvm checked your comments, definitely one of those types.

              • thoro@lemmy.ml
                34·
                1 year ago

                It was honestly a just a joke, and I’m not on Hexbear. Really wasn’t that serious.

                Feel free to take that one innocuous comment and use it as an example for further fragmentation of the platform though.

        • kameecoding@programming.devOP
          42·
          1 year ago

          you can’t be far left and a Putin fan like they are, those diametrically opposing viewpoints.

          The political left is by definition a group of people who believe in a more egalitarian society as opposed to the political right that believe that a hierarchical structure is natural.

          and Oligarchy like russia is a very right political system.