• eldavi@lemmy.ml
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    14 days ago

    But they’re going to try to anyways since the DNC leadership continues to either insist that they did nothing with or that they went too woke.

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      14 days ago

      The “DNC leadership” hardly matters at all. All that matters is Dem members of congress that actually vote on things.

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        13 days ago

        the leadership gets to decide on what & who they can vote for.

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          12 days ago

          That’s a completely different “leadership”. The congressional caucus, if they are in the majority, decides on what congress votes for. The Democratic National Committee (DNC) has nothing whatsoever to do with it.

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            12 days ago

            you’re splitting hairs and pretending that someone like pelosi in incapable of blocking aoc from a committee position that gets input in makin decision when the democrats are in charge.

            dnc leadership; the caucus in charge; democrats are all the same intentionally dysfunctional blob that is moving the country rightwards in their desire to lick oligarchic boot.

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              12 days ago

              you’re splitting hairs and pretending that someone like pelosi in incapable of blocking aoc from a committee position that gets input in makin decision when the democrats are in charge.

              Pelosi is neither a member of the DNC nor a leader of the congressional caucus. Nobody cares what Pelosi thinks about anything. It would be great to see AOC in a committee chairmanship. Did you make a phone call to your own congressman and tell them that? Because you have just as much say as Pelosi does.

              dnc leadership; the caucus in charge;

              Dude the “DNC” is NOT in charge of the Congressional Democratic Caucus. They are 2 completely different groups. The DNC has very little power outside of elections. They don’t call the shots on congressional votes. Nobody in congress cares what “the DNC” thinks about anything after elections are over. If you don’t understand the real world of reality you have no hope of knowing how to fix anything.

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                12 days ago

                you’re right; i’ll just start using the word democrats to describe that blob since using dnc enables hair splitting and redirection like this.

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    14 days ago

    They won’t win for a lot of reasons. Many of them are from the inside. Perhaps even most of them.

    If the country just has 2 parties bought and sold by the rich, then no one wins anyway.

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      12 days ago

      The R party always gives gigantic tax cuts to the rich. The D party always raises taxes on the rich. The last 3 Dem presidents raised taxes on the rich. If you are treating both sides as the same, then you are helping the rich get gigantic GOP tax cuts and worsening wealth inequality.

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        12 days ago

        …the taxes they raise on the rich don’t affect the rich. Raising the income tax does nothing to anyone with a 7 figure income, as they don’t get that in cash. Nor do they have to liquidate their assets in order to spend money.

        The rich will remain practically tax free unless you raise new taxes on everyone that owns any type of property or taxes any kind of loan, which would ruin the economy.

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          12 days ago

          …the taxes they raise on the rich don’t affect the rich.

          LOL! Weird that this is always the GOP’s 1st, 2nd, and 3rd top priorities at all times!

          Raising the income tax does nothing to anyone with a 7 figure income, as they don’t get that in cash.

          It’s not a tax on cash. It’s a tax on income. Including non-earned income (most of their income) such as capital gains.

          The rich will remain practically tax free unless you raise new taxes on everyone that owns any type of property or taxes any kind of loan, which would ruin the economy.

          LMFAO! Well how convenient for the rich! What actually ruins the economy is wealth inequality driven by undertaxing the rich. As yes, a temporary wealth tax would be okay to correct the extreme imbalance built up during the last 45 years. But it is better to tax income.

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              12 days ago

              Income tax does not, in anyway tax asset gains.

              It’s called a capital gains tax doofus and it has existed forever. “Confident ignorance” is the worst type of internet post you can make, and you just did it.

              https://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc409

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                12 days ago

                Capital gains tax is applied WHEN YOU CASH OUT THE ASSET. until you liquidate the asset, d o f u s, no tax is realized. The rich do no liquidate their capital except for 9+ figure acquisitions, they take zero interest loans against it as spending money.

                Your snide comment is ironic, as you have no idea how this works.

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                  Capital gains tax is applied WHEN YOU CASH OUT THE ASSET.

                  Yes everybody knows that. Why the fuck would you think that in any way means we should not tax the rich?

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    14 days ago

    Immigration isn’t a left/right issue. Billionaires want to lower American wages by bringing in cheap labor. Fuck that.