I saw a post that talked about racism towards people and when I talked about it the response I got was very heated and a person even called lemmy.world a community of ‘hitlerites’
I have been around for a week or so and this is my first time seeing such explicit vulgar reaction towards another community, is this a one-off or should I block hexbear?
I think people should be able to have personal property. They should own their house and their yard. If they have a cabin up north, vacation home down south, or acres of wilderness that they hunt on, they should be able to own that too. I understand that the housing market is shit rn but I think that’s caused by flippers and the wealthy treating houses like stocks, and not by your neighbor Bob having a cabin or whatever.
Really I prefer the label of being a left leaning pluralist instead since it makes it clear that I am tolerant of varying ideologies but intolerant of extremism and political violence.
I asked because Marxists make a distinction between personal and public property, you can own things you use. Probably not owning acres of land, but housing is something you can own.
Is there something you especially believe should be ownable by individuals that you think Marxists want to collectivize?
When I hear marxists say that all property should be collectively owned I imagine that means personal property as well, because if it doesn’t then it’s incorrect for them to say that they think all property should be collectively owned.
It’s a shorthand, it’s hard to distill the nuances and complexities of a very dense and historied ideology. Getting into the nuances of property ownership would take a lot longer, because usually said conversations end up being about where the line between private, public, and personal property is drawn. Such conversations are rarely productive and miss the greater picture, and require extensive explanation of Dialectical and Historical Materialism to even get into the why of collectivizing production.
I think most people interpret that shorthand literally just like I did, which then immediately turns them away. You could probably save yourself a lot of arguments by coming up with a different shorthand that more effectively communicates your point.
Probably! There’s also a century of Red Scare propaganda distorting popular opinion, doctoring of Marx’s actual beliefs, and more. Such issues delayed my progress, which is why I try to do the best I can to try to meet people where they are at.