• Schmoo@slrpnk.net
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    3 hours ago

    There is often a very large gap between what is seen as ideal and what pans out in reality. Fascism is absolutely a possible result of an attempt to establish a caliphate, just as an authoritarian dictatorship or oligarchy - sooner or later - is a possible result of an attempt to establish communism.

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      2 hours ago

      If you end up fascist you cannot be a Muslim theocratic state which is what Islam posits as the ideal this you cannot have a state that is both fascist and an Islamic theocracy. This combination is entirely possible for other faiths that do not posit an ideal state.

      You cannot be both.

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        2 hours ago

        You’re making a pure semantics argument, saying that an “Islamic theocracy” means something so specific that even if a fascist regime could be considered both Islamic and a theocracy, you can’t call it that because only caliphates qualify for that label. It’s a bit silly.

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          41 minutes ago

          No I am not making a semantic argument. The role if faith in a theocracy and the role of the state religion in a fascist state are entirely different.

          The only theocratic state that can exist in Islam is a caliphate. That’s literally what is in the Quran. There’s no nuance or room for debate here.

          Do you hate Islam? Is that why this is so hard for you to grasp?