4chan has become unbearable due to a ridiculous rule that, coupled with some of the worst choices in moderation staff, has turned even the slower, thematic boards into some of the least free-speech-friendly places on the internet. And when I’m saying “free speech” I don’t mean slurs or being mean to people in general, I mean expessing all kinds of opinions that local moderator might not like, most importantly discussing their unjustified actions regarding deleted posts and blocked users. Citing the rule that made this happen:

  1. Complaining about 4chan (its policies, moderation, etc) on the imageboards may result in post deletion and a ban.
  • Ciralinde@lemmynsfw.comOP
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    This platform is good, but I don’t see this format as interchangeable with imageboards. For me redditlikes and imageboards are totally different beasts. And even within imageboards, there are actually 2 totally different non-interchangeable types: those like 4chan, a format I’m talking about, the one most often associated with the word “imageboard”, and those like gelbooru, which are closer to stuff like pinterest. Still thanks for letting me know about mbin/piefed because I wasn’t aware of those.

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      11 hours ago

      Maybe look into pixelfed? It’s more similar to Instagram though

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      16 hours ago

      For me redditlikes and imageboards are totally different beasts.

      considers

      What functionality are you looking for that’s specific to the latter? I mentioned the anonymity rather than pseudonymity, but I’m not sure off-the-cuff what else one would want.

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        I actually would be interested to try a non-anonymous imageboard, but I’ve never seen one. What I’m seeking there is not anonymity but the way it’s structured: linear chatty threads with easily expandable images/videos attached to posts, references to other messages using post number backlinks that show referenced post on hover. The way redditlikes feel with this tree-like structure is totally different and it breeds different types of discussions and totally different vibe. This works better for stricter, more formal, more serious discussions, while imageboards work better for chaotic fun chatty threads with incidental RP and whatnot. In a way, imageboards feel more like chat, but turn-based one instead of real-time, and it’s really quite unique vibe.

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          14 hours ago

          linear chatty threads with easily expandable images/videos attached to posts

          So, I don’t know if you’re aware – and your client may work differently, if you’re not using a browser – but in the Lemmy Web UI, you can expand images that are directly posted by clicking on them.

          Kbin/Mbin – I don’t know about piefed – supports arbitrary resizing of inline images as well.

          references to other messages using post number backlinks that show referenced post on hover.

          Oh, yeah, that’s definitely a legit issue today here – you can link to other communities in a home-instance-agnostic way with the !community@instance syntax, but not to other posts or comments. You can link to one on a given instance but for people using a web browser, it’ll take other users following the link off their home instance. They can work around that on the browser side, but it’s a real limitation.

          The way redditlikes feel with this tree-like structure is totally different and it breeds different types of discussions and totally different vibe. This works better for stricter, more formal, more serious discussions, while imageboards work better for chaotic fun chatty threads with incidental RP and whatnot.

          considers

          Hmm. I don’t disagree that there is a cultural difference today between the Threadiverse and 4chan, but I’m also not sure how much of that is intrinsic to the platform, and how much of it is just what current users happen to be doing on currently-popular communities.

          Like, today, there are a lot of furries, LGBTQ+ crowd, Linux users, video game players, and left-wing politics. Oh, and there’s the piracy crowd. I guess maybe one could argue that the higher bar to use the thing maybe favors more Linux users or something, but I don’t think that it’d apply to the other things. I think that a lot of that was just because there was a series of exoduses from Reddit that happened to include those users. The /r/piracy lead moderator left and a lot of people came with him. I think hexbear was the result of /r/ChapoTrapHouse being banned or something like that.

          When I got onto Reddit, in the very early days, back when most of the content was just submitted by people who worked at the company and it was a single page – it was mostly people talking about programming languages – especially Lisp – and startups, because that’s what they were into. There were a lot of people talking about computer science.

          I mean, your home instance is lemmynsfw.com – the content in most communities on that instance probably isn’t going to be mostly long, serious text discussions, like.

          That being said, I can appreciate if what you’re wanting is a large pre-existing community of people already posting whatever content you’re after. Easier than growing one! But I couldn’t help but plug the Threadiverse, and I think that it avoids a lot of issues if you’re not happy with someone exerting centralized control over your content.

          I’m sorry that I don’t have a specific imageboard in mind. But if you don’t get a good recommendation, I’m sure that there are lists of imageboards out there, and if you figure that you can probably get a good idea of the content within a couple clicks, it probably doesn’t take too long to skim a list.

          kagis

          https://imageboards.net/

          The most complete and updated list of imageboard. Explore Over 200 Curated Boards.

          If you figure that you can determine whether an imageboard meets your criteria in about 30 seconds of browsing it, even if the description of each isn’t enough, you should be able to hit all of those in about an hour and a half at maximum.

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            So, I don’t know if you’re aware – and your client may work differently, if you’re not using a browser – but in the Lemmy Web UI, you can expand images that are directly posted by clicking on them.

            The main difference is images on imageboards are posted not only as topic or for sharing content, but WITH EVERY MESSAGE in discussions just for fun and for the sake of it. So a person might start posting every message in a thread with a new image of his anime waifu, even though the discussion might be about linux kernel or whatever. This format of conversation is already a culture in itself, but there’s more to imageboards. You just have to try both to feel the difference in vibe.

            https://imageboards.net/

            Thanks! I’ve been digging myself and somehow this is first time I see this particular catalogue! I wonder what’s wrong with my google-fu.