It wasn’t. But idk why I bother even attempting to have the conversation on this site. Y’all are convinced that it was and seemingly no other information can penetrate your thick skulls. At least some have had the decency admit they don’t care about the truth and just want to be angry which is cringe but I respect the honesty.
Damn. Right to the top- Furher level. This isn’t any SS bullshit. This is practice makes perfect, I might have paid a trainer to get this good level execution. His momma always said, “If you’re gonna do something awful, be the very best at it dear”
Hitler had more people than trumps inauguration so he needed more salutes.
Musk optimized it down to 3. What a genious. Truly the henry ford of our time, right down to the details.
Buddy, I get that you don’t want it to be a Nazi salute… But it obviously is. The Nazis salute is so recognizable, so taboo, and so utterly tainted by its history that other countries that used similar salutes before Nazi Germany changed their salutes to avoid the connotations.
No one with any level of awareness would even come close to accidentally performing a similar gesture. Especially not someone who has had to defend themselves after making Anti-Semitic rhetoric in the past. Especially not at a large scale publicly viewable governmental event like the Inauguration.
Its like the giving the middle finger in America. Everyone knows what it means, and avoids doing things even remotely similar unless they mean to express the intended sentiment.
If your argument is “Elon didn’t know what the Nazi salute looked like” or “it’s just extremely similar looking but he didn’t mean for it to be so”, then you are trying hard to lie to yourself.
Sorry, I meant actually mentally checked out levels of non awareness. Completely unaware of your surroundings style.
No one who can use a word with as many syllables as “civilization” would even come close to accidentally performing a similar gesture.
Do I think he is a true “final solution” style Nazi? No, but he knew damn well what it was when he did it. Was it to embolden his far-right base? Troll the media who would dive on the opportunity to talk about it endlessly, thusly shifting the media away from Trump’s awful day 1 executive orders? Just see if he could get away with it? All of the above? Who knows.
But one thing is for sure, he intentionally and knowingly did a Nazi Salute.
Did he? I’m not gonna slog through the shit show that is his Twitter feed , but if you got proof I’m happy to see it.
If he did apologize I suspect he was apologizing for the accidental similarities and not because he’s an actual Nazi.
Do you really think if someone was stupid enough to pull a real Nazi salute at that event on purpose that he would then turn around and apologize for it?
There’s no mark of edit, you read it wrong. In your world is it more likely that comment was stealthily editted to dunk on you than simply you being wrong about something?
Just checked the modlog; you got a 3 month suspension from 8 communities cause you were mean, i think.
Looks like your account is new so I’ll explain: normally being mean wouldn’t get you banned but in this case you had the unpopular opinion so you got suspended by an unhappy moderator.
Yeah I don’t really care tbh. At least two of those bans were falsely applied as I did not break the rules they claimed I did, but I don’t care to argue with power tripping mods in the first place. The vegan one I’m not shocked by. That crowd is allergic to facts or any criticism of their way of life.
I don’t remember the other ones.
Our of curiosity (because as you pointed out I am new here) how does one see mod logs? I only use the site through my phone and the sync app so I am guessing that’s something you have to use a computer to be able to see?
Oh man. Buckle up. The hive mind here is something fierce. Something about the Left eating their young. People get real pissy when you question a common narrative you find here. It’s becoming harder to separate fact from fiction for me. I can’t decide if my bullshit detector is accurate or malfunctioning.
It feels like there may be a fair amount of propaganda happening. Like back during the early days of the r/thedonald when you could you could watch the Russians clock in and stir up the magats and q’s. Just a different political flavor.
IDK, I say this as a blue voting redneck and supporter of socialized medicine and queer rights and so on.
You sound alright brother. I also lean left, but I ain’t into that super left hivemind bullshit.
Big fan of socializing medicine and I think all consenting adults can marry and fuck whoever the hell they want.
I also think everyone has a right to bear arms which they really don’t like.
I believe in free speech full stop. Used to be a lefty thing and now somehow isn’t. Not a fan of that shift.
I also hate cancel culture and DEI nonsense. People make mistakes and change. Hire the best person for the job regardless of race, gender and whatever else.
Most importantly I want the government to fuck off. Leave everyone alone. Help those who need help but stop telling us what to do dammit.
Looks like you caught another ban. I just had a thread removed for sealioning. Ehh.
Anyhow, hit me up by PM if you want.
As far as firearms go, yah, but nuanced. I do support more stringent purchasing requirements, some common sense limitations. Ultimately, we need a cultural shift back to where they are viewed as tools and not a male enhancement device. I use them for farming and hunting. However, the gun debate is pointless until the US rejects the overt fascism that we are seeing now. Bigger fish to fry.
While I’m obviously in favor of free speech, I think the algorithmically altered shit that is happening with corporate social media is a major problem. As is state level actors like Russia and China using Western social media to influence elections. Foreign involvement in US election social media should be squished like a bug, that is the opposite of free speech.
DEI in particular, that whole thing has been so politicized that it’s hard to see the forest through the trees. Systemic racism is real, seen it all my life in the deep South. Fought against racism when running a corporate shop and it was an uphill battle. IDK, I’m probably more sympathetic to too much DEI than none. I feel like it and cancel culture are a distraction mostly used by the Right. Discrimination is a real problem, and discrimination laws along with workman’s comp and other protections should actually be enforced. The companies that do this shit should be fined out of existence.
Having moved from the south to the northeast, I’m liking the higher level of government involvement in some areas, especially schools and roads. Sucks that I can’t throw away cardboard, recycling bins aren’t big enough to get rid of it, can’t burn it, and I’m not allowed to burn it.
Anyhow, mostly I dislike fanaticism of any stripe. Religious, political, or whatever. I’ve said before, to the Republicans, I’m a radical leftist demon. To the leftists outside of the US, I’m a centrist or right. We’ve lost nuance. Currently the far right is a much greater threat to my people than the the far left.
Mostly, I’m looking for unbiased and timely discussion of news. Warning of what may be coming from the nuts now in power.
It wasn’t. But idk why I bother even attempting to have the conversation on this site. Y’all are convinced that it was and seemingly no other information can penetrate your thick skulls. At least some have had the decency admit they don’t care about the truth and just want to be angry which is cringe but I respect the honesty.
Edit: spelling.
If you don’t like being here, you can leave and take your 2 week old account with you.
Nazis like you deserve no quarter.
We don’t need or want you here either, fascist.
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Stock photo of Majorllama with his “normal people in the shadows.”
Btw, feel free to Google what “argument from fallacy” means, dipshit.
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Reached the end of the ol’ intellectual abilities already? Wow. Why don’t you go take a nap, lil guy?
lol got em
Nazi apologist, got it.
Negative ghostrider.
If that wasn’t a Nazi salute, Hitlers weren’t either.
Bro are you good? That’s not how anything works.
That is how this works. You don’t sieg heil twice in a row on accident.
Damn. Right to the top- Furher level. This isn’t any SS bullshit. This is practice makes perfect, I might have paid a trainer to get this good level execution. His momma always said, “If you’re gonna do something awful, be the very best at it dear”
…you do when you aren’t doing a Nazi salute and you want to properly address two half’s of a stadium.
Hitler had more people than trumps inauguration so he needed more salutes. Musk optimized it down to 3. What a genious. Truly the henry ford of our time, right down to the details.
Notice how one has a fist and the other has a palm.
Buddy, I get that you don’t want it to be a Nazi salute… But it obviously is. The Nazis salute is so recognizable, so taboo, and so utterly tainted by its history that other countries that used similar salutes before Nazi Germany changed their salutes to avoid the connotations.
No one with any level of awareness would even come close to accidentally performing a similar gesture. Especially not someone who has had to defend themselves after making Anti-Semitic rhetoric in the past. Especially not at a large scale publicly viewable governmental event like the Inauguration.
Its like the giving the middle finger in America. Everyone knows what it means, and avoids doing things even remotely similar unless they mean to express the intended sentiment.
If your argument is “Elon didn’t know what the Nazi salute looked like” or “it’s just extremely similar looking but he didn’t mean for it to be so”, then you are trying hard to lie to yourself.
Did you forget who you’re talking about? This is Elon fucking Musk. Retard king. I think he’s earned the right to be assumed an idiot.
Sorry, I meant actually mentally checked out levels of non awareness. Completely unaware of your surroundings style.
No one who can use a word with as many syllables as “civilization” would even come close to accidentally performing a similar gesture.
Do I think he is a true “final solution” style Nazi? No, but he knew damn well what it was when he did it. Was it to embolden his far-right base? Troll the media who would dive on the opportunity to talk about it endlessly, thusly shifting the media away from Trump’s awful day 1 executive orders? Just see if he could get away with it? All of the above? Who knows.
But one thing is for sure, he intentionally and knowingly did a Nazi Salute.
If it wasn’t a nazi salute, why didn’t he apologize? 🤔
Did he? I’m not gonna slog through the shit show that is his Twitter feed , but if you got proof I’m happy to see it.
If he did apologize I suspect he was apologizing for the accidental similarities and not because he’s an actual Nazi.
Do you really think if someone was stupid enough to pull a real Nazi salute at that event on purpose that he would then turn around and apologize for it?
I might have misjudged you. Maybe you’re not dumb, just illiterate.
Ayo I swear that said “why did he apologize” earlier.
There’s no mark of edit, you read it wrong. In your world is it more likely that comment was stealthily editted to dunk on you than simply you being wrong about something?
Just checked the modlog; you got a 3 month suspension from 8 communities cause you were mean, i think.
Looks like your account is new so I’ll explain: normally being mean wouldn’t get you banned but in this case you had the unpopular opinion so you got suspended by an unhappy moderator.
Welcome to Lemmy.
Yeah I don’t really care tbh. At least two of those bans were falsely applied as I did not break the rules they claimed I did, but I don’t care to argue with power tripping mods in the first place. The vegan one I’m not shocked by. That crowd is allergic to facts or any criticism of their way of life.
I don’t remember the other ones.
Our of curiosity (because as you pointed out I am new here) how does one see mod logs? I only use the site through my phone and the sync app so I am guessing that’s something you have to use a computer to be able to see?
Oh man. Buckle up. The hive mind here is something fierce. Something about the Left eating their young. People get real pissy when you question a common narrative you find here. It’s becoming harder to separate fact from fiction for me. I can’t decide if my bullshit detector is accurate or malfunctioning.
It feels like there may be a fair amount of propaganda happening. Like back during the early days of the r/thedonald when you could you could watch the Russians clock in and stir up the magats and q’s. Just a different political flavor.
IDK, I say this as a blue voting redneck and supporter of socialized medicine and queer rights and so on.
You sound alright brother. I also lean left, but I ain’t into that super left hivemind bullshit.
Big fan of socializing medicine and I think all consenting adults can marry and fuck whoever the hell they want.
I also think everyone has a right to bear arms which they really don’t like.
I believe in free speech full stop. Used to be a lefty thing and now somehow isn’t. Not a fan of that shift.
I also hate cancel culture and DEI nonsense. People make mistakes and change. Hire the best person for the job regardless of race, gender and whatever else.
Most importantly I want the government to fuck off. Leave everyone alone. Help those who need help but stop telling us what to do dammit.
Looks like you caught another ban. I just had a thread removed for sealioning. Ehh.
Anyhow, hit me up by PM if you want.
As far as firearms go, yah, but nuanced. I do support more stringent purchasing requirements, some common sense limitations. Ultimately, we need a cultural shift back to where they are viewed as tools and not a male enhancement device. I use them for farming and hunting. However, the gun debate is pointless until the US rejects the overt fascism that we are seeing now. Bigger fish to fry.
While I’m obviously in favor of free speech, I think the algorithmically altered shit that is happening with corporate social media is a major problem. As is state level actors like Russia and China using Western social media to influence elections. Foreign involvement in US election social media should be squished like a bug, that is the opposite of free speech.
DEI in particular, that whole thing has been so politicized that it’s hard to see the forest through the trees. Systemic racism is real, seen it all my life in the deep South. Fought against racism when running a corporate shop and it was an uphill battle. IDK, I’m probably more sympathetic to too much DEI than none. I feel like it and cancel culture are a distraction mostly used by the Right. Discrimination is a real problem, and discrimination laws along with workman’s comp and other protections should actually be enforced. The companies that do this shit should be fined out of existence.
Having moved from the south to the northeast, I’m liking the higher level of government involvement in some areas, especially schools and roads. Sucks that I can’t throw away cardboard, recycling bins aren’t big enough to get rid of it, can’t burn it, and I’m not allowed to burn it.
Anyhow, mostly I dislike fanaticism of any stripe. Religious, political, or whatever. I’ve said before, to the Republicans, I’m a radical leftist demon. To the leftists outside of the US, I’m a centrist or right. We’ve lost nuance. Currently the far right is a much greater threat to my people than the the far left.
Mostly, I’m looking for unbiased and timely discussion of news. Warning of what may be coming from the nuts now in power.